A rotating rod acted upon by a perpendicular force

In summary, you integrated FL/2 and I\omega^2 to get I\alpha. You then replaced I\omega with what you had stated earlier, t = 2\sqrt{I\theta/FL}.
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Homework Statement
A uniform rod of mass M and length L pivoted at its center of mass is acted upon by a force F perpendicular to the line passing through the center of the rod. (the force F remains perpendicular always to the line passing through the center of the rod) find the time taken by the rod to cover an angle theta?
Relevant Equations
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$$\tau = I\alpha$$
$$FL/2 = I\omega^2L/2$$
$$T = 1/\theta \sqrt{F/I}$$

would this be correct?
I came up with this more basic question to solve a slightly harder question so I do not know the answer to the above-stated problem.
 
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Hamiltonian299792458 said:
$$\tau = I\alpha$$
Yes.
Hamiltonian299792458 said:
$$FL/2 = I\omega^2L/2$$
How did you get this? It is dimensionally inconsistent.
Hamiltonian299792458 said:
$$T = 1/\theta \sqrt{F/I}$$
Does it make sense that increasing theta reduces the time?
 
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haruspex said:
How did you get this? It is dimensionally inconsistent.
disclaimer I am new to rigid body dynamics

i thought the ##\tau## = FL/2 = I##\alpha## = I##\omega^2##(L/2)
from this I got ##\sqrt{F/I} = \omega##
my final answer is $$ t = \theta\sqrt{I/F}$$
not what I stated above
 
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Hamiltonian299792458 said:
##I\alpha = I\omega^2(L/2)##
You seem to have a basic misunderstanding there. What principle are you using?
 
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haruspex said:
You seem to have a basic misunderstanding there. What principle are you using?
ok I think I get what I did wrong there.
$$I\alpha = Id(\omega)/dt$$ not what is wrote above
 
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Hamiltonian299792458 said:
ok I think I get what I did wrong there.
$$I\alpha = Id(\omega)/dt$$ not what is wrote above
Ok, so integrate that, knowing alpha is constant.
Btw, the question omits to say where along the rod the force acts. I see you are taking it to be at the tip.
 
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haruspex said:
Ok, so integrate that, knowing alpha is constant.
Btw, the question omits to say where along the rod the force acts. I see you are taking it to be at the tip.
$$\omega = FLt/2I$$

$$t = 2\sqrt{I\theta/FL}$$
 
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haruspex said:
Right, but you won’t need the second equation.
So how to get from there to an equation involving theta?
we need to find t(##\theta##)
and $$\omega = d\theta/dt$$
so u can just replace ##\omega## with what I have stated above
 
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$$t = 2\sqrt{I\theta/FL}$$
 
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thanks for all the help :D
 
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Hamiltonian299792458 said:
$$t = 2\sqrt{I\theta/FL}$$
Sorry about my previous post... I misread yours. I've deleted it.
 

1. What is a rotating rod?

A rotating rod is a long, thin object that can spin around a central axis.

2. What does it mean for a rod to be acted upon by a perpendicular force?

A perpendicular force is a force that acts at a right angle to the surface of the rod. This means that the force is not directly pushing or pulling the rod, but is instead causing it to rotate.

3. How does a perpendicular force affect the rotation of a rod?

A perpendicular force causes the rod to rotate around its central axis. The amount of rotation depends on the strength and direction of the force, as well as the mass and length of the rod.

4. What are some real-life examples of a rotating rod acted upon by a perpendicular force?

Some examples include a spinning top, a merry-go-round, a windmill, and a spinning bicycle wheel.

5. How is the rotation of a rod affected by the location of the perpendicular force?

The rotation of a rod is affected by the location of the perpendicular force. If the force is applied closer to the center of the rod, it will cause less rotation compared to if it is applied at the end of the rod. This is because the distance from the axis of rotation affects the torque, or rotational force, that is produced.

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