A small, easy algebraic question about the First Law of Thermo for SISO

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The discussion revolves around a confusion regarding the algebraic manipulation of the First Law of Thermodynamics for SISO systems, specifically the equation Q - W. A participant questions why the equation is structured as Q - W instead of W - Q. Another contributor clarifies the manipulation by substituting terms and demonstrating the algebraic steps, ultimately confirming that Q - Ws remains on the left side of the equation. This explanation helps clarify the signs associated with enthalpy, kinetic, and potential energy changes. The conversation concludes with appreciation for the clear explanation provided.
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O_o. I know this is a really stupid question, but how the heck did the Q - W get to the other side of the equation? Shouldn't it be W - Q? I'm going to feel really stupid when I hear the answer, I'm sure, and I'm already done with the class so it's ultimately irrelevant, but I'd love to know.
 
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Since you don't have an expert answer yet, I will try for an easy one. I am sure the experts will shoot me down if my thinking is wrong...

Q(dot) - Ws(dot) is still on the left in the final equation.

Substitute each term for a letter. Let us use u, v and w. Put a pair of brackets round Q(dot) - Ws(dot) and that is u.

Then you start with u + v - w = 0

Adding w gives u + v = w

Subtracting v gives u = w - v

u still equals Q(dot) - Ws(dot)

(The term on the right hand side has been simplified from w - v for your final equation).
 
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Bandit127 said:
Since you don't have an expert answer yet, I will try for an easy one. I am sure the experts will shoot me down if my thinking is wrong...

Q(dot) - Ws(dot) is still on the left in the final equation.

Substitute each term for a letter. Let us use u, v and w. Put a pair of brackets round Q(dot) - Ws(dot) and that is u.

Then you start with u + v - w = 0

Adding w gives u + v = w

Subtracting v gives u = w - v

u still equals Q(dot) - Ws(dot)

(The term on the right hand side has been simplified from w - v for your final equation).

Dude, that makes total sense. It simultaneously explains where the "change in" signs on enthalpy and kinetic and potential came from. Thanks a ton.
 
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