A trace between a dog and a rabbit

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a dog chasing a rabbit, where the dog starts at a distance L due north of the rabbit, which moves east at a constant speed v while the dog runs faster at speed u. Participants are working through the problem using polar coordinates, focusing on the relationship between the dog's and rabbit's velocities and positions. They discuss how to derive the position vector and velocity components relative to the rabbit, and how to approach the integration needed to find the time τ it takes for the dog to catch the rabbit. Some participants express confusion over integrating the equations and applying the provided hints effectively. The conversation emphasizes the need for careful component resolution and correct sign usage in the calculations.
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Homework Statement


A dog is at a distance L due north of a rabbit. He starts to pursue the rabbit and its motion always points to the rabbit. Given that the rabbit keeps running due east with a constant speed v and the dog's speed is a constant u, where v<u. Find the time that the dog catches the rabbit according to the method stated below.

(a) Consider the rabbit as a moving origin of a polar coordinates. Let \vec{r} be the postition vector of dog relative to rabbit. Write down the velocity vectors relative to the rabbit along \vec{e_{r}} \vec{e_{θ}} respectively.

(b) Show that r=\frac{L (cot \frac{θ}{2})^\frac{u}{v}}{sinθ}

(c) Use the result of (a) and (b) to find τ, the time for the dog to catch the rabbit.
[Hint: Consider the relation τ=\int dt and dt= \frac{dθ}{dθ&#039;}]

Homework Equations


u speed of the dog
v speed of the rabbit
θ angle measure from east to the position of the dog.
L original dist. between the 2 animals

The Attempt at a Solution


For part (a), we can simply do it by resolving components.
I get \vec{v}=<u+vcosθ, vsinθ>

But for part b and c, I have no idea.
We need to integrate \vec{v} with repest to t in order to get \vec{r}, but in part a, \vec{v} depends on θ only.

Alway, I don't know where can I use the hint.
 
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athrun200 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


For part (a), we can simply do it by resolving components.
I get \vec{v}=<u+vcosθ, vsinθ>

But for part b and c, I have no idea.
We need to integrate \vec{v} with repest to t in order to get \vec{r}, but in part a, \vec{v} depends on θ only.

Alway, I don't know where can I use the hint.
Use the fact that \vec{v} = \dot{r}\vec{e}_r + r\dot{\theta}\,\vec{e}_\thetaand\frac{dr}{d\theta} = \frac{dr}{dt}\frac{dt}{d\theta}
Make sure you get the signs correct.
 
Are you talking about part b?
If yes, then what is \frac{dt}{dθ}

Is it \frac{1}{\dot{θ}}?
Then how to find \dot{θ}?
 
vela said:
Use the fact that \vec{v} = \dot{r}\vec{e}_r + r\dot{\theta}\,\vec{e}_\thetaand\frac{dr}{d\theta} = \frac{dr}{dt}\frac{dt}{d\theta}
Make sure you get the signs correct.

I finish part b now! :)
But I don't know how to integrate the monster in part c.
 

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Isn't it supposed to be sin2 θ on the bottom?

I'd try the substitution u = cot(θ/2) first.
 
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