Graduate A very peculiar emergent definition of gravity

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The discussion centers on a unique definition of Newtonian gravity, asserting that for any mass M, the circular orbit of a test particle m at a distance equal to the Compton length of M maintains the same areal speed, independent of both M and m. This definition emphasizes the less common aspect of M's independence, contrasting with the more frequently discussed independence of m. The conversation highlights the need for references to support such claims, as personal speculation is not permitted in the forum. The thread was ultimately closed for moderation due to strict rules against speculative discussions.

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Newtonian gravity is the force law such that for any mass M, the circular orbit of any test particle m at a distance equal to the Compton length of M has the same areal speed, independent of M and m.

I wonder, have you seen this sort of definition online in the literature? I guess that independency of m is used in most arguments, but independency of M is less usual.
 
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arivero said:
Newtonian gravity is the force law such that for any mass M, the circular orbit of any test particle m at a distance equal to the Compton length of M has the same areal speed, independent of M and m.
Where are you getting this from? Do you have a reference? I'm thinking not, since you say:

arivero said:
have you seen this sort of definition online in the literature?
Please note that personal speculation is off limits here.
 
arivero said:
the old exercise we did here
That was 20 years ago and our rules on speculation, even in the BTSM forum, are much stricter now than they were then.

Thread will remain closed.
 
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