AC current, conceptual question, the difference between Iaverage and Irms?

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The discussion clarifies the difference between average current (Iaverage) and root mean square current (Irms) in AC circuits. Iaverage is calculated by integrating the absolute value of the waveform over a period and dividing by that period, while Irms involves squaring the waveform, finding the mean of the squared values, and then taking the square root. This distinction arises because Iaverage measures the average of the absolute values, while Irms provides a measure of the effective value of the current. The confusion is resolved by understanding that the calculations involve different mathematical processes. The explanation highlights the importance of recognizing the definitions and calculations behind each current type.
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This is more of a conceptual problem I'm having difficulty getting my head around.

What is the difference between Iaverage and Irms for a rectified and non rectified AC circuit?

I know Iaverage=(2/π)Imax while Irms=(1/√2)Imax but I don't understand why they are different given that both are essentially measuring the area under the same curve, rectified or not.

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Iaverage=(2/π)Imax and Irms=(1/√2)Imax

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I don't understand why they are different given that both are essentially measuring the area under the same curve.
 
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connor02 said:
I don't understand why they are different given that both are essentially measuring the area under the same curve.
Boldface mine.

Not the same curve.

In the average power, we integrate the absolute value of the waveform to find the area under the curve. Then we divide that by the integration time.

I_{ave} = {\frac{\int_0^T | \sin \left(\frac{2 \pi}{T}t \right) | dt}{T}}

We can get rid of the absolute value by noting that second half of the period is just the negative of the first (before the absolute value), thus we really only have to integrate over the first half, and divide by the first half.

I_{ave} = {\frac{\int_0^{T/2} \sin \left(\frac{2 \pi}{T}t \right) dt}{T/2}}

RMS current is quite a bit different though. RMS (root mean square) is exactly what it sounds like. First we square the function. Then we take the mean (same method that we did for the average except this time we start with the signal's square -- and because of the square, we know it will always be positive so we don't need to worry about the absolute value). Finally, we take the square root of the whole thing.

I_{rms} = \sqrt{\frac{\int_0^T \sin^2 \left(\frac{2 \pi}{T}t \right) dt}{T}}
 
Ah I see. it makes sense now. I overlooked that it is root mean square and not mean root square so you that the mean of the square value and not the square root of the square values. TY!
 
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