Academic advice for fall semester?

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Taking Modern Algebra I and Real Analysis I in the same semester raises concerns about workload and comprehension, especially given the intensive nature of both courses. The semester's limited duration of four and a half months may not provide sufficient time to fully grasp these complex subjects, particularly for someone with a B- in a prior proof-based course. While these courses are fundamental to a mathematics major, they may not be directly applicable for teaching K-12 mathematics, where advanced topics like abstract algebra and real analysis are generally unnecessary. The discussion emphasizes the importance of pacing in academic progression, suggesting that attempting both classes simultaneously could lead to excessive stress and hinder genuine learning. It is recommended to consider taking these courses separately to ensure a deeper understanding and better preparation for future academic endeavors.
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Hi PF members,

I've been thinking about taking Modern Algebra I and Real Analysis I in the same semester, but I'm having doubts if this is a realistic schedule. A semester is only four and a half months long and I don't believe that I can fully comprehend the subjects I'm studying for that short of time. As for my background, I had done math well up until Exploration and Proofs where I earned a B-, so you can see why I'm a bit shaky in signing up for two proofs-intensive classes. On the sidenote, I'm a double major in history and mathematics for teaching which explains my hesitation in taking more challenging courses. I've been going over this in my head for a few times now, not sure what path to go. I would like some advice from people experienced in taking these type of math courses or have been in a similar situation such as I've described.

Thanks
 
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From a logical point of view, there is no reason to take either of those courses. If you plan on teaching K-12 mathematics (up to and including calculus), knowing about groups, rings, vector spaces in abstract algebra or epsilon-delta arguments in analysis is simply unnecessary. While it might provide added insight if you learn the material well, odds are the insights won't be directly useful. I can see how real analysis might be useful if you wanted to teach a not so watered down calculus course (meaning with some proofs of the more well-known theorems), but even that's a stretch. As for modern algebra, even the very basics demonstrate the power and value of generalization, which I feel is too explicit for people learning elementary mathematics for the first time.

Finally, both of these courses form the core of any math major's education, and while I wouldn't necessarily say you need to do exceptional in your proof course, you might need to brush up some skills to catch up with those who did very well. I would strongly advise against taking both simultaneously (probably a lot of stress for most people), and you have my thoughts on taking even just one.
 
Thanks for taking the time in relating your thoughts about the subjects. I wanted to get through all the hard courses this junior year and then have an easier senior year, but I guess that would be rushing and not learning.
 
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