Accelerated Pendulum Frequency: g-a vs g+a

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The discussion clarifies the frequency of a pendulum when subjected to upward acceleration. The correct formula for the frequency of an accelerated pendulum is derived as ω = √((g+a)/l), contrary to the initial assumption of ω = √((g-a)/l). This is because the peg holding the pendulum is accelerated upward, causing the pendulum to experience a pseudo force downward. The effective downward acceleration of the pendulum is thus the sum of gravitational acceleration and the pseudo force. This explanation aligns with the experience of weight in an accelerating elevator.
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Assume a pendulum, a mass M attached to a massless rod, which is oscillating in small angle. According to the oscillating equation

\ddot{\theta} + \frac{g}{l}\theta = 0

We find that the frequency is proportional to \sqrt{g/l}. Now if the pendulum is accelerated upward at acceleration a, since a is along the opposite direction as the gravity g, the frequency of the accelerated pendulum should be

\omega = \sqrt{\frac{g-a}{l}}

why in textbook, in said the frequency becomes \omega = \sqrt{\frac{g+a}{l}}?
 
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Aha! Actually, it is not the pendulum that is accelerated upwards! It is the peg that is holding the pendulum that is accelerated. So the pendulum itself experiences a pseudo force downwards.

If you stand in an elevator and it accelerates at "a" then your weight
as you would experience will be m(g+a), because ma downwards is the pseudo force.

Pendulum is no different: the effective downward acceleration of the pendulum of mass m is (mg + pseudo force)/m = (mg + ma)/m = (g+a).

Makes sense?
 
sai_2008 said:
Aha! Actually, it is not the pendulum that is accelerated upwards! It is the peg that is holding the pendulum that is accelerated. So the pendulum itself experiences a pseudo force downwards.

If you stand in an elevator and it accelerates at "a" then your weight
as you would experience will be m(g+a), because ma downwards is the pseudo force.

Pendulum is no different: the effective downward acceleration of the pendulum of mass m is (mg + pseudo force)/m = (mg + ma)/m = (g+a).

Makes sense?

Yes, it makes sense.
 
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