Accelerating Blocks: Calculating Frictional Force

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The problem involves two wooden crates, with the top crate having a mass of 22 kg and the bottom crate 94 kg, being pulled by a tension of 239 N. The static friction coefficient between the crates is 0.75, while the kinetic friction coefficient is 0.6, and there is no friction with the floor. To find the frictional force exerted by the lower crate on the upper crate, one must first determine the force required to accelerate the top crate, which is influenced by the frictional force. The calculated acceleration of the system is 2.08 m/s², and the frictional force will adjust to meet the needs of the top crate's acceleration without exceeding the maximum static friction. Understanding the contact forces acting on the top crate is essential for solving the problem.
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Homework Statement



Two wooden crates rest on top of one another. The smaller top crate has a mass of m1 = 22 kg and the larger bottom crate has a mass of m2 = 94 kg. There is NO friction between the crate and the floor, but the coefficient of static friction between the two crates is μs = 0.75 and the coefficient of kinetic friction between the two crates is μk = 0.6. A massless rope is attached to the lower crate to pull it horizontally to the right (which should be considered the positive direction for this problem). The rope is pulled with a tension T = 239 N (which is small enough that the top crate will not slide).

What is the frictional force the lower crate exerts on the upper crate?



Homework Equations



Ffr=μmg
Fnet=ma




The Attempt at a Solution



if F(net)=T, then ma=T, and (94+21)a=239, a=2.08m/s2.

I really am not sure how to proceed from here to find the force of friction exerted by the lower block on the upper block...I would really appreciate some help! Thanks!
 
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iluvcanucksfo said:

Homework Statement



Two wooden crates rest on top of one another. The smaller top crate has a mass of m1 = 22 kg and the larger bottom crate has a mass of m2 = 94 kg. There is NO friction between the crate and the floor, but the coefficient of static friction between the two crates is μs = 0.75 and the coefficient of kinetic friction between the two crates is μk = 0.6. A massless rope is attached to the lower crate to pull it horizontally to the right (which should be considered the positive direction for this problem). The rope is pulled with a tension T = 239 N (which is small enough that the top crate will not slide).

What is the frictional force the lower crate exerts on the upper crate?



Homework Equations



Ffr=μmg
Fnet=ma




The Attempt at a Solution



if F(net)=T, then ma=T, and (94+21)a=239, a=2.08m/s2.

I really am not sure how to proceed from here to find the force of friction exerted by the lower block on the upper block...I would really appreciate some help! Thanks!

The expression:
Ffr=μmg

enables you to calculate the maximum possible friction, but friction is only ever as large as it needs to be.

You have accurately calculated the acceleration of the crates, you now need to consider what force is needed to accelerate the top crate, and where that force comes from.
(hint: if it is not gravity, magnetism or electrostatics - it must be a contact force, so consider everything that is touching the top crate)
 
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