Acceleration of Two Blocks Connected by a Pulley on a Frictionless Ramp

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The discussion focuses on determining the acceleration of two blocks connected by a pulley on a frictionless ramp. The blocks have the same mass, with one on a slope and the other hanging, while the pulley has a moment of inertia and radius. Key equations include force (F = ma) and torque (Torque = Ftangential * r), with tension differing on either side of the pulley. The participant expresses uncertainty about incorporating torque and the correct tension values in their calculations. Clarifications emphasize the need for separate free body diagrams for each block and the pulley to accurately solve the problem.
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Homework Statement


Two blocks are of the same mass M. One lies on a frictionless ramp with slope θ, while the other one, connected by a rope, hangs by a pulley with a moment of inertia of I and a radius of r. Find the acceleration of the two blocks.

I don't have an actual picture, but this one might help:
incline_wpulley.gif

Assuming m=M and that the pulley has a moment of inertia = I and a radius = r

Homework Equations


F = ma
Torque = Ftangential * r
Tension = Mg(1-sinθ)
2Ma should (?) be the total force on the blocks.

The Attempt at a Solution


I drew an FBD for the masses and got Mg(1-sinθ), but I'm unsure as to where I am supposed to go after this. I assumed that torque factored in, but I'm shaky on that aspect of the problem.

The answer given was (Mg(1-sinθ))/(2M-(I/r2)).
 
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Hello I_A, :welcome:

You sense there is more to this, but can't pinpoint it, is my impression.
I_Auditor said:
I drew an FBD for the masses and got Mg(1-sinθ), but I'm unsure as to where I am supposed to go after this. I assumed that torque factored in, but I'm shaky on that aspect of the problem.
Did you draw one for each of the two ? Draw something equivalent for the pulley too.
You may assume that the rope does not slip on the pulley.

From the m diagram you should conclude that Tension ##\ne## Mg(1-sinθ) on the left side of the pulley.
From the pulley diagram you should conclude that the Tension on the left side of the pulley is not equal to the Tension on the right side of the pulley

By the time you have digested all that, you are well under way towards the book solution. Good luck !

:smile:
 
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