Acidity of substituted benzoic acids

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The discussion centers on the acidity differences between meta methoxybenzoic acid and para methoxybenzoic acid. It highlights that m-methoxybenzoic acid is a stronger acid than its para counterpart due to the differing effects of the methoxy group in each position. At the meta position, the methoxy group only exerts inductive withdrawing effects, while at the para position, it also acts as a resonance donor. This resonance donation at the para position allows for more resonance structures that stabilize the deprotonated form, making it less favorable for the proton to dissociate. In contrast, the meta isomer lacks resonance structures that can stabilize the negative charge on the carboxylate, leading to a stronger acid. The discussion also includes attempts to draw resonance structures, with corrections noted regarding the movement of charges and protons in these structures.
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Heres meta methoxy benzoic acid:

and here's para methoxy benzoic acid:
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m-methoxybenzoic acid is a stronger acid than its para substituted analogue. I'm a bit confused about why this is. From what I've read, its because at the meta position, only the methoxy groups inductive withdrawing effects apply whereas at the para position, it also acts as a mesomeric (resonance) donator. Why does the methoxy groups resonance effects only work when its at the para position? Why doesn't it act as a resonance donator when its at the meta position?
 
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Draw out the resonance structures for the deprotonated form of both acids. For the para isomer, you will see that you will have more resonance structures because the negative charge can move to the methoxy group. For the meta isomer, however, you cannot draw a resonance structure that moves the negative charge to the methoxy group.
 
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**** my organic chem is a bit rusty, I don't know how to draw this resonance structure. Heres my attempt for the meta isomer:
[PLAIN]http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2921/resonance.png
what am I doing wrong there?
 
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First, I made a mistake in my post. None of the resonance structures should move the negative charge to the methoxy group. Rather, for the para-isomer, there are resonance structures that give a slight negative charge to certain positions of the ring, and this slight negative charge will destabilize the carboxylate.

As for your resonance structures, the first two are ok, but the thrid is wrong as it involves the movement of a proton. Below are some resonance structures for methoxybenzene.

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When you draw the resonance structures for the para-isomer you should find a resonance structure that would disfavor dissociation of the proton from the carboxyl group. This resonance structure you would not be able to see with the meta-isomer.
 
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