Add or Subtract? Solve Voltage Math Problem

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In the discussion, a user seeks clarification on whether to add or subtract voltages in a circuit configuration involving light bulbs and batteries. It is confirmed that when batteries are in parallel, the voltage across the light bulb remains at 1.5V, not 3V, as they do not add. The conversation also touches on Kirchhoff's laws, specifically that the net voltage in a closed loop must equal zero, leading to further confusion about current direction and voltage measurement. A voltage meter should be applied in parallel to measure voltage across components accurately. Overall, the user expresses gratitude for the clarification but still seeks additional help on related problems.
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atwong713 said:
Can someone help me:

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for this configuration i was wondering do i add the voltages if each of them are 1.5V to find the voltage across the input terminals of the light bulb

what are your thougts?
Do you know any physical laws?

(you must give attempt to solution and some relevant equations/laws before you can get help, it is a part of the forum rules)
 
i know if its (-+)(-+) in series you add em n if its (-+)(+-) you subtract it right? but what if its like that? I'm guessing if they are 1.5V each then its 1.5v through the light bulb or since dey are in series den i add em so its 3V
 
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atwong713 said:
i know if its (-+)(-+) in series you add em n if its (-+)(+-) you subtract it right? but what if its like that? I'm guessing if they are 1.5V each then its 1.5v through the light bulb

Are you familiar with Kirchoffs loop law?
 
i'm not sure is it like if its a closed loop the net voltage has to equal zero or something? does that mean the answer is zero?

i don't really understand kirchhoffs laws my professor didnt really explain it well i did some searches on this forum and it cleared up somethings but I'm still kinda confused about the signs of what the currents is suposed to be
 
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atwong713 said:
i know if its (-+)(-+) in series you add em n if its (-+)(+-) you subtract it right? but what if its like that? I'm guessing if they are 1.5V each then its 1.5v through the light bulb or since dey are in series den i add em so its 3V


You are correct. Parallel sources do not add. There is 1.5V across the bulb.
 
atwong713 said:
i'm not sure is it like if its a closed loop the net voltage has to equal zero or something? does that mean the answer is zero?

i don't really understand kirchhoffs laws my professor didnt really explain it well i did some searches on this forum and it cleared up somethings but I'm still kinda confused about the signs of what the currents is suposed to be


ok.

But do you know how to apply a voltage meter?
 
malawi_glenn said:
ok.

But do you know how to apply a voltage meter?

no what's that?

Integral said:
You are correct. Parallel sources do not add. There is 1.5V across the bulb.

thanks
but could you explain it a little and clear it up for me what would happen if they weren't the same voltage
 
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atwong713 said:
no what's that?

ok, then never mind;)

Your guesses was right as Integral stated.

A voltage meter is applied parallel (over) the circut, so if you apply it over one emf you get 1.5V and that means that you must have 1.5V over the battery (I could have done a picture for you)

Using Kirchofs laws, you would find that there are no current in the upper loop, but that there are current in the lower, so "only one" battery will contribute.
 
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could you also help me on another problem and tell me if i got my facts straight

i say that it is moving away because if i say its positive going into element1 then since its negative its going out of element1 so its moving away from A
 

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atwong713 said:
could you also help me on another problem and tell me if i got my facts straight

i say that it is moving away because if i say its positive going into element1 then since its negative its going out of element1 so its moving away from A


One thread for each problem, and use the template.
 
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malawi_glenn said:
One thread for each problem, and use the template.

yes sir my bad
 
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atwong713 said:
i know if its (-+)(-+) in series you add em n if its (-+)(+-) you subtract it right? but what if its like that? I'm guessing if they are 1.5V each then its 1.5v through the light bulb or since dey are in series den i add em so its 3V

Thnx.Was confused in that.
 
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