Addition of a System of Coplanar Forces

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a physics homework problem involving the addition of a system of coplanar forces. Participants analyze the forces acting in a two-dimensional plane, specifically focusing on the resultant force and the magnitudes of individual forces based on given components.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines the problem, stating that the resultant force is directed along the positive x-axis and provides specific values for the components of force F3.
  • The same participant attempts to calculate the y-component of the resultant force and expresses confusion over obtaining a negative value for F2y, suggesting a contradiction with the expected direction of F2.
  • Another participant questions the assumption that F3 is at a 30-degree angle from the x-axis, noting that the diagram does not support this angle.
  • The original poster clarifies that while they are unsure about F3's angle, they do know that F2 is at a 30-degree angle from the x-axis.
  • A later reply reveals a realization that the direction of force F1 was misinterpreted, which changes the understanding of the problem significantly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach consensus on the angles of the forces involved, particularly regarding F3. The discussion reflects uncertainty and confusion about the directions of the forces, with one participant correcting their earlier assumptions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the provided diagram and assumptions regarding the angles of the forces, which may affect the calculations and understanding of the problem.

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1. If the problem statement, all variables and given/known data
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The resultant force acting is directed along the positive x-axis, determine the magnitudes of F2 and the resultant force

And that F3x=4 and that F3y=3 (its a right angle 3-4-5 triangle)

Homework Equations


F1=F1x +F1Y
F2=F2x +F2Y
F3=F3x +F3Y

The Attempt at a Solution


F1y= 4cos(30) = 3.464
F3y=3

And since the resultant force is along the x-axis, the resultant y force (Fry) would therefore have to equal 0.

But when you run the numbers:

Fry=F1Y+F2Y+F3Y
Fry=(+3.464)N + (-3)N + F2y
F2y= -0.464
xsin30=-0.464
x=-0.464/sin30
x=-0.928

But that is impossible because F2 is above the x-axis and therefore couldn't have a negative y value.

This is where I am currently stuck, if it would work out i could figure out the resultant of F2y and F2x which would be F2, and the find out the resultant of all three from there on.Thank you in advance,
Chris
 
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tophernuts said:
1. If the problem statement, all variables and given/known data
And that F3x=4 and that F3y=3 (its a right angle 3-4-5 triangle)

How do you know that F3 is 30 degrees from the x-axis? Your diagram doesn't indicate such.
 
I don't, I just know that it is a 3-4-5 triangle.

I know that F2 is 30 degrees away from the x-axis though
 
Well, this is embarrassing.
My friend who I was working on it with and I both failed to see the direction of the arrow F1...
As it is pointing downwards, not upwards, this question makes a lot more sense now...

Sorry for your time!

:blushing:
 

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