Adiabatic Expansion of 2.47 mol Ideal Gas: Final Volume Calculation

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An ideal monatomic gas of 2.47 mol expands adiabatically from an initial temperature of 22.3°C to a final temperature of -64.3°C, prompting a discussion on calculating the final volume. Participants explore the relationship between pressure, volume, and temperature using the ideal gas equation PV = nRT and the adiabatic expansion formula V2/V1 = (P1/P2)^y, where y represents the heat capacity ratio. Confusion arises regarding the calculation of pressures and the meaning of y, which is defined as Cp/Cv. The conversation highlights the challenge of applying these formulas correctly and the need for clarity in understanding the relationships between variables. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the complexities involved in solving adiabatic expansion problems for ideal gases.
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An ideal monatomic gas, consisting of 2.47 mol of volume 0.0890 m^3, expands adiabatically. The initial and final temperatures are 22.3oC and -64.3oC. What is the final volume of the gas

According to a formula in the book, the volume of an ideal monatomic gas' volume expands by 1.52, but I think I am misinterpreting that. Anyway, I have tried using the formula

V2/ V1 = (P1/P2)^y -- but I don't know how to get the second pressure. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Can You express P through V and T? From ideal gas equation.
 
PV = nRT ?
 
Yes. You know that P*V^(gamma) is constant!? So P1*V1^gamma=P2*V2^gamma
But V=V(P,T). Thus, You can find any function depndent on V and T which is constant. it will be like V*T^(q), where q is any coefficient which can be expressed with gamma
 
wait, can you try that again, I don't get what you're saying, sorry.
 
You have PV = nRT. n and R are constant.
You also know V2/ V1 = (P1/P2)^y (do You understand what is y?)
From other angle P1/P2 = (T1*V2)/(T2*V1) (From ideal gas equation), isn't it?
So, know You can express T1/T2 through V1/V2.
 
No, I don't understand y
It says that y = Cp/Cv -- and then it lists values for real gasses, but this is a general gas

I see what you're saying for the second part, I guess I just am frustrated with looking at it.
 
As You have written "V2/ V1 = (P1/P2)^y", y =Cv/Cp. Usually is used gamma = Cp/Cv=1/y. did You get the answer?
 
Yeah, its gamma, I just don't know how to put gamma on the computer. Anyway, no, I am still very confused. Don't worry about it, I'll try to solve it, I guess I just don't know where to get started with all of these formulas. Thanks for the help though.
 
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