Adiabatic stretching of a rubber band

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In the discussion on adiabatic stretching of a rubber band, it is established that tension is proportional to temperature when length is constant. For adiabatic stretching, it is shown that the internal energy change leads to an increase in temperature due to the positive relationship between force and length. The participant expresses uncertainty about their solution's simplicity and seeks clarification on the implications of warming the band under constant tension. It is noted that if temperature increases while tension remains constant, the length of the rubber band must decrease. The conversation emphasizes the relationship between temperature, tension, and length in the context of rubber band behavior.
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Homework Statement


For a stretched rubber band, it is observed experimentally that the tension ##f## is proportional to the temperature ##T## if the length ##L## is held constant. Prove that:

(b) adiabatic stretching of the band results in an increase in temperature;
(c) the band will contract if warmed while kept under constant tension.

Homework Equations


the first law:
$$
dU=Tds+fdL=C_L dT
$$
$$
f=\left (\frac{\partial f}{\partial T}\right )_L T
$$
$$
\left (\frac{\partial L}{\partial f}\right )_T>0
$$

The Attempt at a Solution



(b)[/B]

For an adiabatic process, entropy doesn't increase and so:
$$
dU=fdL=C_LdT
$$

The force is always positive and so temperature is positively increased by length.

This feels too simple so i doubt I am correct. I have no idea for part (c).
 
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How do you know that dU=CdT?
 
There was a part A that was to show this is the case
$$dU=C_vdT+\left[f-T\left(\frac{\partial f}{\partial T}\right)_L\right]dL$$

The second term drops out
 
Toby_phys said:

Homework Statement


For a stretched rubber band, it is observed experimentally that the tension ##f## is proportional to the temperature ##T## if the length ##L## is held constant. Prove that:

(b) adiabatic stretching of the band results in an increase in temperature;
(c) the band will contract if warmed while kept under constant tension.

Homework Equations


the first law:
$$
dU=Tds+fdL=C_L dT
$$
$$
f=\left (\frac{\partial f}{\partial T}\right )_L T
$$
$$
\left (\frac{\partial L}{\partial f}\right )_T>0
$$

The Attempt at a Solution



(b)[/B]

For an adiabatic process, entropy doesn't increase and so:
$$
dU=fdL=C_LdT
$$

The force is always positive and so temperature is positively increased by length.

This feels too simple so i doubt I am correct. I have no idea for part (c).
In part (a) it was shown that f = Tg(L), where g is an increasing function of L. This is the equation of state of the rubber. So if T increases at constant f, what happens to L?
 
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