Adjacent Blocks: What is the mag of the force due m1 on m2?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two adjacent blocks with masses m1 and m2, focusing on the forces acting between them and the calculation of acceleration using Newton's second law, f=ma.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to calculate acceleration and forces using the equation f=ma, with various substitutions of values for mass and acceleration. Questions arise regarding the correct application of these values and the interpretation of the results.

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Some participants express confusion over their calculations and the meaning of the results, while others provide guidance on understanding the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly apply the concepts to find the net force acting on each mass.

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Participants note that they are receiving feedback from a system (smartwork) indicating incorrect answers, which adds to their uncertainty in the calculations. There is a focus on ensuring that the calculations reflect the physical meanings of the variables involved.

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f=ma

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I got the acceleration by:

(f1-f2)/(m1+m2)=a

Now the first two q's I just cannot figure out.

1.5*4=nope
1.5/.367347*4=nope
1.5/.367347+4=nope
4*.367347=nope
2.66667-.647059=nope......ah!
 
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You're right that f=ma is the way to go here, and I agree with a=0.3673 m/s2***

Now that you know "a", and of course "m" for each mass, what does f=ma tell you about each mass?

***Uh, that should be written 0.37 m/s2 when given as an answer. But keep those extra digits for doing calculations involving "a"
 
f=ma
(m1)1.5
(m2)3.4
(a).367347
(m1+m2)=4.9
(m1-m2)=1.8

1.5*.367347=nope
4.9*.367347=nope
1.8+.367347=nope

lost.. what am i doing wrong?
 
hmm..
 
raven2783 said:
.. what am i doing wrong?

You seem to be plugging in numbers at random, and not thinking about what they mean.

In general, when you multiply a mass times its acceleration, that gives you ______ ? (No numbers here, use words.)
 
it of course gives you force, the numbers represent my understanding of the words, I tried different combonations of adding subtracting and dividing mass, force and acceleration for the whole system but smartwork is telling me they are the wrong answers.
 
i do appreciate your help btw thank you.
 
You're welcome.

Yes, it gives you the force. And if there are 2 or more forces acting on the object, it gives you the net force.

Can you use the fact that you are really calculating net force on a mass, and get from there to what is being asked for?
 
O.k. got it thanks!

the sum of the x forces is:

F-m1*a=3.4N

or

4N-(1.5kg*.367347m/s^2)=3.4N

and it is the same when you try the second mass:

F+m2*a=3.4N

or

2.2N+(3.4kg*.367347m/s^2)=3.4N

Thanks for your help.
 

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