Air Pressure Lift: Lifting 250 lbs 6-12

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To lift 250 pounds six to twelve inches using six 1-inch diameter pipes, a hovercraft design with a skirt is recommended to minimize power requirements. The air pressure needed is significantly lower than 240 psi, as hovercraft typically operate around 0.5 psi, with higher pressures leading to increased leakage and power needs. A suitable motor should be lightweight and capable of maintaining consistent pressure while being mobile for transport. Stability is a concern, as unrestrained hovercraft can become dangerous with heavy loads due to ground slope or wind. Overall, careful design considerations and calculations are essential for successful implementation.
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How much air pressure, from six 1inch in diameter pipes, would it take to lift something no more then 250 pounds about six to twelve inches off the ground?P.S. This is a personal question not, homework.
 
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What is your goal? What are you building?
 
Drakkith said:
What is your goal? What are you building?
I want to build a small platform that will carry small work loads such as wood or metal. (Farm purpose)
 
By 1" pipes do you mean 1" inside diameter cylinders with pistons?
 
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I want to build a small platform that will carry small work loads such as wood or metal. (Farm purpose)
Sounds like you should add a skirt, like a hovercraft uses. Otherwise it will take WAY more power to lift the load that high.

Make a Hovercraft Wheelbarrow, like this:

https://theawesomer.com/photos/2013/10/wingman_hovercraft_wheelbarrow_t-300x250.jpg
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JBA said:
By 1" pipes do you mean 1" inside diameter cylinders with pistons?
My thought was to use something like copper or aluminum pipes/tubing. I just need something simple that can easily be fixed or replaced. What kind of moter could i use to get 240 psi, with it the moter only weighing no more then thirty to forty pounds?
 
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I guess this is heavily depending on details of design. A Google search "hovercraft technical specifications" brought me a lot to read. Wikipedia has a nice picture of the principle behind. I was surprised, that the pipes don't press the air directly on the ground, but on a bottom plate instead.
It will probably be determined by the rubber aprons to contain the air. And stability might get a problem.
 
fresh_42 said:
I guess this is heavily depending on details of design. A Google search "hovercraft technical specifications" brought me a lot to read. Wikipedia has a nice picture of the principle behind. I was surprised, that the pipes don't press the air directly on the ground, but on a bottom plate instead.
It will probably be determined by the rubber aprons to contain the air. And stability might get a problem.
Well what i thought of for design was to use nozzles to get a more forceful push of air from the exit points. Would i loss or gain psi from nozzles?
 
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Well what i thought of for design was to use nozzles to get a more forceful push of air from the exit points. Would i loss or gain psi from nozzles?
If you don't use a skirt, it won't matter whether you try to use nozzles or not. You could only use nozzles if you had a jet engine for thrust.

http://tek-think.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Human-test-flight-of-a-jetpack-in-Bejing-China.jpg
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berkeman said:
If you don't use a skirt, it won't matter whether you try to use nozzles or not. You could only use nozzles if you had a jet engine for thrust.

http://tek-think.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Human-test-flight-of-a-jetpack-in-Bejing-China.jpg
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What kind of moter should i use to get a constant 240psi through the system? It would also need to be mobile enough to be easily transported by hand.
 
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Builder said:
What kind of moter should i use to get a constant 240psi through the system? It would also need to be mobile enough to be easily transported by hand.
If you Google DIY Hovercraft Wheelbarrow, you will see lots of ideas. You could have wheels outside the skirt that the unit settles down on when the motor isn't running.

http://www.vintageprojects.com/go-kart/flying2-150.jpg
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A hovercraft (with skirt) usually don't have a pressure over 0.5 psi. The higher the pressure, the bigger the leakage, the higher the power needed.

This post might help.
 
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jack action said:
A hovercraft (with skirt) usually don't have a pressure over 0.5 psi. The higher the pressure, the bigger the leakage, the higher the power needed.

This post might help.
Well for the project I am working on i need it to get at least 200 pounds six or eight inches off of flat ground, so what kind of moter would be best for a skirted craft? (Craft is 4 foot long, 3 foot wide.)
 
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Well for the project I am working on i need it to get at least 200 pounds six or eight inches off of flat ground, so what kind of moter would be best for a skirted craft? (Craft is 4 foot long, 3 foot wide.)
Here's a hovercraft calculator:
http://www.hoverhawk.com/lcalc.html

I think you will find that your requirements are substantial -- more than you are probably expecting.
 
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russ_watters said:
Here's a hovercraft calculator:
http://www.hoverhawk.com/lcalc.html

I think you will find that your requirements are substantial -- more than you are probably expecting.
Thanks
 
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One major issue is to keep in mind is that a hovercraft is a frictionless vehicle that must be restrained at all times when at lift. The slightest ground slope and/or wind can quickly accelerate an unrestrained hovercraft into a dangerous uncontrolled projectile (particularly one with a heavy load).
 
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Thanks for the help everyone.
 

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