Air turbine? to increase air speed/compress air

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The discussion centers around the concept of turbines or compressors that can increase air speed or compress air, with a focus on applications similar to turbochargers. Participants explore various types of compressors and their potential uses, as well as practical considerations for acquiring components.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the existence of a turbine that increases air speed or compression, likening it to a turbocharger.
  • Another participant suggests that the inquiry relates to a gas turbine engine, specifically mentioning the role of an axial compressor in the process.
  • Some participants discuss the efficiency of axial compressors in large jet engines and contrast them with centrifugal compressors, which are more common in smaller applications like turbochargers.
  • There is a suggestion for the original poster to provide more details about their intended application to receive more focused answers.
  • Participants express interest in practical applications, including the possibility of obtaining parts from junkyards or repurposing components from household items like vacuum cleaners or leaf blowers.
  • One participant shares a resource link related to air motors or compressors, indicating a desire to explore simple designs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the existence and types of compressors, such as axial and centrifugal compressors. However, the discussion remains exploratory with no consensus on specific applications or designs.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of knowledge and interest, with some seeking practical advice on acquiring components while others focus on theoretical aspects of air compression and movement. There are no settled conclusions regarding the best approach or specific models.

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Individuals interested in mechanical engineering, DIY projects involving air movement, or those exploring the principles of gas turbines and compressors may find this discussion relevant.

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Is there such thing as a turbine that increases air speed/compression? This seems like a dumb question but I'm having a heck of a time locating any information on it because any iteration of "air turbine" entered into Google just brings up information about wind mills.

I'm looking for something along the lines of a turbo charger. Powered by one side spinning due to exhaust gasses but the other side spools up and pumps in air. Except I thought there was something that would increase air speed.

Am I delusional? Lol
 
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You are basically describing a gas turbine engine. The component that does the compression portion is simply an axial compressor.
 
boneh3ad said:
much! are basically describing a gas turbine engine. The component that does the compression portion is simply an axial compressor.
That should give me a great start! Thank you much!
 
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Could you provide us more deails about the purpose/application? That would help us give better focused answers.
 
russ_watters said:
Could you provide us more deails about the purpose/application? That would help us give better focused answers.

Honestly I'm not completely sure. It's more of just a basic interest. I've been reading about turbochargers and wanted to fiddle with air movement but have no money lol I was hoping for something like breath power able as ridiculous as that might sound ...

Hope that helps a little. The basis is just pure interest though so an axial compressor is a very helpful start! Thanks guys!
 
More generally, the component you are thinking of is a compressor. Axial compressors are some of the most efficient ones, and are used in large jet engines, but for less expensive and smaller applications, a centrifugal compressor is more common (turbochargers often use centrifugal compressors).
 
cjl said:
More generally, the component you are thinking of is a compressor. Axial compressors are some of the most efficient ones, and are used in large jet engines, but for less expensive and smaller applications, a centrifugal compressor is more common (turbochargers often use centrifugal compressors).

That's very helpful! Thanks for the information! This is what I was picturing! Thanks! I wish there was a way to get my hands on some tiny turbocharger or something like that to fiddle with and inspect haha. I'd expect that I can but not cheaply..
 
Maybe out of a car at a junk yard?
 
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Q_Goest said:
Maybe out of a car at a junk yard?

That's kind of my only lead so far. I've never gone to a junk yard so I don't really know how it works but that's my thought as well. Guess I'll start looking around and see what junk yards are around here.
 
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Some may already have the parts pulled, some may be 'U-pull-it' places, where you personally get to remove the part from a junked car. (You have to bring your own tools for the latter).
 
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Dead vacuum cleaners, leaf blowers, use your imagination.
 
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profinger said:
That's kind of my only lead so far. I've never gone to a junk yard so I don't really know how it works but that's my thought as well. Guess I'll start looking around and see what junk yards are around here.
Here's a link that might give you some idea of how simple a air motor or compressor can be,... "Atlas_Airmotors_Pocket_Guide" I can't copy and paste the pdf
places like Goodwill or Savers, any recycle store that resales donated things will have things like, hairdryers and small electrical fans (many types of air movers) they all fall into the same basic principles.:)
 
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