Algebra Word Problem - practice problems

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The problem involves finding two numbers based on a set of conditions: their sum is 25, and a relationship between fractions of these numbers is given. Participants are exploring how to set up equations based on the problem statement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to define the variables for the smaller and larger numbers, with some confusion about the relationships described in the problem. There are attempts to frame equations based on the given conditions, and participants question their initial setups and interpretations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints and guidance on how to correctly interpret the problem and set up the equations. There is an acknowledgment of misunderstandings regarding the relationships between the numbers, and some participants express intent to revisit their approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem involves fractions and relationships that may lead to complex equations. There is also a mention of a new question being introduced, which suggests a transition in the discussion focus.

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Homework Statement


The problem goes like this: The sum of 2 numbers is 25. If 2/3 of the smaller one is 2 more than 1/4 of the larger one, find the 2 numbers.

Any hints on how to start off this one? What should I let x= be?

When i attempted to solve this i let 2/3x = the smaller number and then the other number is 1/4(2/3x+2) well that's how i understood this problem and after that the solution looked really bad, i got really large fractions as an answer.
 
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Let ##x## be the smaller number and ##y## be the larger number. Can you now try to frame some equations?
 
ahh thank you very much well i'll try it.
 
enggM said:

When i attempted to solve this i let 2/3x = the smaller number and then the other number is 1/4(2/3x+2) well that's how i understood this problem and after that the solution looked really bad, i got really large fractions as an answer.
The problem said 2/3 of the smaller number. Setting "2/3x = the smaller number" says that the smaller number IS 2/3 of some other number. You have it backwards.
 
so basically i might have switched the two numbers is that what you're implying? ohhh i see got to try it :)
 
enggM said:
so basically i might have switched the two numbers is that what you're implying? ohhh i see got to try it :)
Seems to me you reversed all three operations, the 2/3, the +2, and the 1/4.
 
oh thanks for all of your hints i finally solve it. i forgot the role of 25 there so the setting was let x = smaller then 25-x = the larger then set up the equation which is 2/3(x)=1/4(25-x)+2. Now to the next one :) 2]The denominator of a fraction exceeds its numerator by 5. If the numerator is multiplied by 3, and the denominator is increased by 3, the resulting fraction is equivalent to 1. Find the original fraction. ill be back tomorrow to cook up the constraints and equations any hints would be appreciated though :)
 
enggM said:
Now to the next one :) 2]The denominator of a fraction exceeds its numerator by 5. If the numerator is multiplied by 3, and the denominator is increased by 3, the resulting fraction is equivalent to 1. Find the original fraction. ill be back tomorrow to cook up the constraints and equations any hints would be appreciated though :)
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