Algebraic Simplification: Finding Unit Tangent and Normal Vectors

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In summary, the conversation is about finding the unit tangent vector and normal vector, as well as simplifying algebraic expressions. The speaker is struggling with algebra and is seeking help from others. They are discussing the square root of an expression and testing it with different values of t. They also mention the importance of having a strong foundation in math.
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well 'm finding the unit tangent bector and normal vector and then finding its curve, that's not bad but I'm hung up on some algebra..
I have sqrt(4t^2 + 4 + 1/t^2);
can that equal...
2t*2*1/t = 4?

Also...
sqrt(4t^2 + 25t^8)
Will that simpify too:
10t^5?
 
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Why don't you test them with a few values of t? (Try t = 1.)
 
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Yeah that is so not working, so i know its wrong and yet I'm still stuck. Who said 8th grade math was required for calc III? :uhh:
 
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Hopefully, you learned long ago that, in general, [itex]\sqrt{a^2+ b^2}\ne a+ b[/itex].
What is (2t+ 1/t)2? Do you see how that answers your question?

"Who said 8th grade math was required for calc III? "

Pretty much every teacher of 8th grade math or calc III!
 
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I used to tell my calculus 1 students that everything they had ever learned in math, from kindergarten on, would show up sometime during the year, and anything they had learned imperfectly would grow teeth and bite them. No one ever accused me of exaggerating by the end of the year.
 
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mr_coffee said:
well 'm finding the unit tangent bector and normal vector and then finding its curve, that's not bad but I'm hung up on some algebra..
I have sqrt(4t^2 + 4 + 1/t^2);
can that equal...
2t*2*1/t = 4?

Also...
sqrt(4t^2 + 25t^8)
Will that simpify too:
10t^5?

Try to square your answer :
[tex](2t * 2 *\frac{1}{t})^2[/tex]

And hopefully you'll see that it's not equal to what you originally had, which is written like:
[tex]\sqrt{4t^2 + 4 + \frac{1}{t^2}}[/tex]

Same for:
[tex]\sqrt{4t^2 + 25t^8}[/tex],
that will not equal
[tex]10t^5[/tex]
Can you tell us how you got that so at least one of our many brilliant helpers can assist you on your algebra, and hopefully overcoming your weakness.
 
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