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The discussion revolves around understanding the relationship between two forms of the equation of a line: the point-slope form and the slope-intercept form. Participants are exploring how to derive the equation of a line given two points and clarifying their understanding of the y-intercept.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand why their calculation of the y-intercept appears incorrect when using the point-slope form with given points. Other participants discuss the equivalence of the two forms and provide insights on how to derive the equation using the points provided.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's confusion, offering different perspectives on the equations. Some have provided examples of how to apply the equations, while others are clarifying the definitions and relationships between the forms. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the discussion is productive.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and the interpretation of the y-intercept, indicating a potential gap in their understanding of the concepts involved. There is an implication of prior knowledge from precalculus that may not be fully recalled.

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When we want to find the equation of a line we can use:
Y-Y_1 = m(X-X_1) or Y = mX + B

My question is aren't both equations essentially the same?

For equation 1. If I know two points that the line passes through just by plugging and chugging won't that lead to what the Y intercept is?

For example I have these two points that a line passes through: (2,12) & (6,0).
by looking at the graph I know that the line has a Y intercept, even though it is not drawn. When I use equation one my constant (B) the Y intercept is 0 even though it should not be. What the heck am I doing wrong?:biggrin:
 
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Yes, they are the same equation. I'm not sure what you're doing wrong, but if we use your first equation, put one point in (say (6,0)), then y-0=m(x-6) => y=m(x-6). Then use the second point to find m; 12=m(2-6) => m=-3; thus y=-3(x-6)=-3x+18 is the equation for the line.
 
Yes they are the same, the second one is a special case where Y_{1} is the y intercept (B) and thus X_{1} is 0 so you get Y=mX+Y_{1}

edit: woops, hi cristo =-).
 
dontdisturbmycircles said:
edit: woops, hi cristo =-).
Haha; that gets me back for butting into your thread earlier! :wink:
 
cristo said:
Yes, they are the same equation. I'm not sure what you're doing wrong, but if we use your first equation, put one point in (say (6,0)), then y-0=m(x-6) => y=m(x-6). Then use the second point to find m; 12=m(2-6) => m=-3; thus y=-3(x-6)=-3x+18 is the equation for the line.

You have hit upon the point of my confusion exactly cristo! Jeez, so simple but I have not used this equation since precalc so i forgot how it worked! the point slope form of the line is used to find the slope of the line. It is the variable that we are solving for.
 

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