An inductor and a capacitor with a state

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An inductor with a current state and a capacitor with a voltage state can be considered equivalent to a current source and a voltage source, respectively, at a specific moment. This equivalence allows for the use of exponential decay and rise functions in transient analysis, simplifying modeling. While ideal models assume instantaneous changes in voltage and current, real components introduce complexities such as series resistance and lead inductance. The discussion emphasizes that while theoretical models are useful, they must account for the non-ideal characteristics of real components. Overall, the abstraction of using current and voltage sources aids in understanding transient behaviors in circuits.
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Is it correct to say that an inductor with a state, that is some level of current inside it, and a capacitor with some voltage, are equivalent to a current source (in the case of an inductor) and a voltage source (in the case of a charged capacitor) respectively at that instant of time?
Of course the current source and voltage source would not be constant but as described by the exponential decay and rise functions for the transient behaviour.

I was wondering if this equivalence can hold to the extent where we can just draw current sources and voltage sources with the exponential decay and rise functions? Because we know the current source model (ideal) delivers current and the voltage across it is a function of the network it is connected to, likewise, the voltage source supplies voltage and the current across it is a function of the network it is connected to.

When doing transient analysis questions I obviously noticed that the voltages across inductances could change instantaneously, and the same for currents in a capacitor, not accurate for the real situation but for modelling purposes? I am thinking why not because a zero current inductance is modeled as an open circuit, and a zero volt capacitor modeled as a short. Which is the entire purpose of such abstractions like short, open, voltage and current source.
 
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Yes, everything is an instant source for an instant approximation.

K Murty said:
I was wondering if this equivalence can hold to the extent where we can just draw current sources and voltage sources with the exponential decay and rise functions?
It is usually more difficult to model things as exponential sources than to model them as R, C & L components with calculus where R, L & C are fixed coefficients in the integral and differential equations.

K Murty said:
When doing transient analysis questions I obviously noticed that the voltages across inductances could change instantaneously, and the same for currents in a capacitor, not accurate for the real situation but for modelling purposes?
If that was a question? Yes, theoretical transient analysis is theoretical. But you must consider that;
Real inductors have series resistance and terminal capacitance.
Real capacitors have series resistance and lead inductance.
Real resistors have lead inductance and terminal capacitance.
 
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