An Inexpensive Hobbyist Photoelectric Effect Lab Kit

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The discussion revolves around creating a budget-friendly photoelectric effect lab kit for hobbyists, focusing on materials and equipment needed to conduct experiments related to the photoelectric effect, including measuring Planck's constant and stopping potential.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using tin foil to create an electroscope, emphasizing the use of a jam jar and clean zinc to harness UV light from sunlight for the experiment.
  • Another participant questions the necessity of zinc, asking if other metals could be used, noting that zinc has a low work function suitable for producing photoelectrons with UV light.
  • Concerns are raised about the availability of monochromatic lenses and the challenges of using sunlight for experiments due to UV absorption by many glasses.
  • A participant mentions that clean zinc can be obtained by scraping the surface of any zinc and shares their experience of acquiring zinc cheaply from a scrap metal dealer.
  • One participant humorously suggests using a UV lamp as a free alternative to sunlight for the experiment.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the materials needed, particularly regarding the use of zinc and the feasibility of using sunlight versus artificial UV sources. No consensus is reached on the best approach or materials.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the limitations of using sunlight for experiments and the potential challenges in obtaining suitable materials, particularly monochromatic lenses and metals with low work functions.

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What materials and equipment would be needed to for a hobbyist photoelectric effect lab kit?

If possible, trying to keep this within a budget of $50. (Cheaper if feasible).
 
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I reckon you could do it almost for free. You can make an electroscope with careful use of tin foil (instead of the better gold leaf), suspended inside a jam jar. You need a bit of clean zinc and direct sunlight should give you enough UV to discharge the Zinc plate, when you charge it up. You can charge it up with the induction method (it's described all over the place).
 
sophiecentaur said:
I reckon you could do it almost for free. You can make an electroscope with careful use of tin foil (instead of the better gold leaf), suspended inside a jam jar. You need a bit of clean zinc and direct sunlight should give you enough UV to discharge the Zinc plate, when you charge it up. You can charge it up with the induction method (it's described all over the place).

Thanks.

What about cheap monochromatic lenses? I'd like to actually measure Planck's constant and the stopping potential - if I can do so without spending much money. Also, where do you suppose I can pick up some clean zinc?
 
And is there something special about zinc? Can another metal be used?
 
EM_Guy said:
And is there something special about zinc? Can another metal be used?
It needs to have a low work function but you won't be able to get hold of one of the Alkali Metals (with work functions corresponding to optical frequencies). It's the poor man's option (in a higher group), which just manages to produce photoelectrons with UV. I don't know whether anything else will do, to be honest, but it will have to obtainable and in the right group.
EM_Guy said:
What about cheap monochromatic lenses?
UV is absorbed by many glasses so it may be hard to do what you want with the low intensity available from Sunlight. Perhaps, if you went up a mountain?? :wink:
I'm not sure how you would bring in the stopping potential bit.
Clean zinc is just any ol' zinc with a scraped surface. I am not totally sure just how the purity of the zinc would affect things but, hell, the basic experiment could be set up and tested in an evening. (I got a kilo of zinc from a scrap metal dealer for a GBP or two)
 
Free + UV lamp..

 

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