An integral with a fraction in it- finding the antiderivative

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The discussion revolves around finding the antiderivative of the integral \(\int(\frac{20}{1+x^2} - 2)dx\), with specific evaluation points at \(x = \pm 3\). The original poster expresses difficulty in handling the antiderivatives of fractions, particularly in reaching the provided answer of approximately 37.961.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to manipulate the integral into a more manageable form but questions their understanding of the antiderivative process, particularly regarding the term \(\frac{20}{1+x^2}\). Some participants suggest using trigonometric substitution or referencing derivatives of inverse trigonometric functions. Others point out the need to consider the derivative of the denominator in relation to the numerator.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's confusion, offering various approaches and insights. There is a recognition of the complexity involved in the antiderivative process, and while some guidance has been provided, there is no explicit consensus on a single method to resolve the issue.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a specific answer provided in a worksheet, which adds pressure to arrive at a correct solution. There is also an indication of a lack of familiarity with trigonometric integrals, which may be influencing their approach.

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An integral with a fraction in it--need help finding the antiderivative

Homework Statement


I have the integral \int(\frac{20}{1+x^2} - 2)dx where x = ± 3. To solve, I need to find the antiderivative of \frac{20}{1+x^2} - 2

Now, the worksheet actually gives the answer to the problem: The antiderivative is 37.961 or 37.962. However, I'm having trouble actually reaching that answer on my own; I have trouble with the antiderivatives of fractions.


Homework Equations



Lessee... I know that the antiderivative of 1/x is ln x. When it gets any more complex than that I get confused.

The Attempt at a Solution



First, I took \int(\frac{20}{1+x^2} - 2)dx and turned it into \int(20(1+x^2)^-^1 - 2)dx

Then, I tried to take the antiderivative. I thought it would be: 20ln(1+x^2)-2x.

Then I plugged in the x values, 3 and -3. With positive 3 plugged in, it came out to 40.052, with a negative 3 it came out to 52.052. I don't even have to finish it off with the subtraction to know that my final answer isn't right and that I missed a step (or two) somewhere. Only question is: What step did I miss? I have a feeling I was supposed to do something with the 20... And I think that there might have been more to taking the antiderivative of (1+x^2)^-1 then just turning it into a natural logarithm. Would someone please help me figure out what I forgot?
 
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Try a trig sub or look up derivatives of inverse trig functions.
 
If you're using a trigo substitution, you may want to use this:
tan^2\theta + 1 = sec^2\theta

That should help you.
 
Don't be a victim of universal logarithmic differentiation!

\int\frac{20}{1+x^2}dx doesn't equal 20*ln|1+x^2|+c
 
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If you haven't touched trig int before:

let x = tanu
dx = tanu.secu

substitute these values for x and dx
 
Oh hush! We all know it's 20arctanx - 2x! Cut the kid some slack!

The reason the natural logarithm didn't work was because you need the derivative of the denominator in the numerator. The derivative of 1+x^2 is 2x, and as you can see, it ain't there.
 
BrendanH said:
Oh hush! We all know it's 20arctanx - 2x! Cut the kid some slack!

The reason the natural logarithm didn't work was because you need the derivative of the denominator in the numerator. The derivative of 1+x^2 is 2x, and as you can see, it ain't there.

I didn't know it three-four years ago :shy:...:cry:
 

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