Analytic mechanics in polar coordinates

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The discussion focuses on calculating the period of a mass following the path of a cardioid defined by the equation r=1+sinφ. The user initially attempts to derive the period using the integral for arc length in polar coordinates, specifically \int_0^{2\pi} \sqrt{r^{2}+(\frac{dr}{d\varphi})^2}d\varphi. After realizing the integral evaluates to zero, participants clarify that this integral represents the infinitesimal arc length and suggest that if the speed is constant, the period can be derived from the total arc length.

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Homework Statement


A mass follows the path of a cardioid r=1+sinφ with given speed, what is its period?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I attempt to do an integral on polar coordinates to find the distance covered by the mass first.
The integral I derived is
[tex]\int_0^{2\pi} \sqrt{r^{2}+(\frac{dr}{d\varphi})^2}d\varphi[/tex]
A mistake here? Or there are other methods to find the time?
Any help is appreciated.

UPDATE: I figure out the integral, but it is zero (ok, I know it's correct ya), but certainly not something I want.
 
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chingcx said:

Homework Statement


A mass follows the path of a cardioid r=1+sinφ with given speed, what is its period?

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



I attempt to do an integral on polar coordinates to find the distance covered by the mass first.
The integral I derived is
[tex]\int_0^{2\pi} \sqrt{r^{2}+(\frac{dr}{d\varphi})^2}d\varphi[/tex]
A mistake here? Or there are other methods to find the time?
Any help is appreciated.

UPDATE: I figure out the integral, but it is zero (ok, I know it's correct ya), but certainly not something I want.

The infinitesimal arc length in polar coordinates [itex]dl[/itex] is what you integrated over in your expression. ie,

[tex]dl= \sqrt{r^2+\left(\frac{dr}{d\theta}\right)^2}d\theta[/tex]

If you integrate this, it gives you the total arc-length. If the speed is constant, what is the time required to travel a distance dl? From this, you can get the period.

Hint: Remember that

[tex]\left(\sin\frac{\theta}{2} + \cos\frac{\theta}{2}\right)^2 = 1+\sin{\theta}[/tex]
 

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