Analyzing RLC Series Circuits Using Laplace Transforms and Complex Variables

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The discussion focuses on solving the equation for current in an RLC series circuit using Laplace transforms and complex variables. The participant attempts to derive the current equation I = V/((R^2+(Xl-Xc)^2)^1/2) by manipulating the equations involving impedance and Kirchhoff's Laws. They express the relationship between voltage, current, and impedance while emphasizing the need to demonstrate the solution using traditional methods rather than shortcuts. The conversation highlights the complexity of the problem and the appreciation for advanced mathematical tools like Laplace transforms in circuit analysis. Ultimately, the participant finds a solution for I0 in terms of V0 and the circuit parameters.
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Homework Statement



I need to solve the following equation to get I = V/((R^2+(Xl-Xc)^2)^1/2).

Homework Equations



-I[(1/c - w^2L)sin(Φ)-Rwcos(Φ)]-wV=0
we know that tan(Φ) = (Xl-Xc)/R
Xc = 1/wc
Xl = wL

The Attempt at a Solution



I[(1/c - w^2 L)sin(Φ)-Rwcos(Φ)]=wV
I[sin(Φ)/c - sin(Φ)w^2L - Rwcos(Φ)] = wV
I[sin(Φ)/wc - sin(Φ)wL - Rcos(Φ)] = V

By using a helping right hand triangle, I know that sin(Φ)=(Xl-Xc)/((R^2+(Xl-Xc)^2)^1/2) and cos(Φ)=R/((R^2+(Xl-Xc)^2)^1/2)...

So I won't have to type this over and over, I'll assume the hypotnuse of the triangle is h = ((R^2+(Xl-Xc)^2)^1/2). Now when I plug in the values I have...

I[(Xl-Xc)/h (Xc) - (Xl-Xc)/h (Xl) - R^2/h]=V
I[(XcXl-Xc^2)/h - (Xl^2-XcXl)/h - R^2/h]=V
I[(XcXl-Xc^2-Xl^2+XcXl-R^2)/h]=V
I = (Vh)/(XcXl-Xc^2-Xl^2+XcXl-R^2) plug in for h now from above...
I = [V ((R^2+(Xl-Xc)^2)^1/2)] / (XcXl-Xc^2-Xl^2+XcXl-R^2)

This is where I get stuck... I don't know what to do here... This could be better to post in the Mathematics forum. If someone could help me out, it would be greatly appreciated...
 
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Are you familiar with complex numbers?
The complex impedance is Z = R + j\omega L - \frac{j}{\omega C}
The current is I = \frac {V}{Z}
So, |I| = \frac{|V|}{|Z|}
and phase(I) = phase(V) - phase(Z)
 
I know that the current is equal to V/Z... We just have to show this using Kirchoff's Laws for circuits. It's part of the assignment that we do it this way.
 
lylos said:
I know that the current is equal to V/Z... We just have to show this using Kirchoff's Laws for circuits. It's part of the assignment that we do it this way.

Use KVL. V = R I +j X_L I - j X_C I
 
hey that's cheating, i thought complex variables were out and this was to be done the ole fashioned way
JS
 
It does have to be done the "ole fashioned" way... I have it, I believe... Going to hand it in today, when I get time today I'll post what I found.
 
Solve the following equation to get I0 = V0 / ( (XL-XC)^2 + R^2 )^1/2.

I0 [(( 1/C – ω2L ) Sin (φ)) + Rω Cos (φ)] = ωV0

Known
Tan (φ) = (XL-XC) / R
XC = 1 / ωC
XL = ωL
Sin (φ) = (XL-XC) / ( [(XL-XC)^2+R2]^1/2)
Cos(φ) = R / ([(XL-XC)^2+R^2]^1/2)

Solution
I0 [Sin(φ)/C - Sin(φ)ω^2L) + RωCos(φ)] = ωV0
Divide both sides by I0 and ω.

[Sin(φ)/ ωC - Sin(φ)ωL) + RCos(φ)] = V0/ I0
Put in XC for 1/ωC and XL for ωL and factor out Sin(φ).

Sin(φ) (XC-XL) + Cos(φ)R = V0/ I0
Put in the values found for Sin(φ) and Cos(φ) from right triangle.

[(XL-XC)^2 / ( [(XL-XC)^2+R^2]^1/2)] + [R^2 / ([(XL-XC)^2+R^2]^1/2)] = V0/ I0
Combine numerators with common denominator.

[(XL-XC)^2 + R^2] / ([(XL-XC)^2+R^2]^1/2) = V0/ I0
Divide numerator into denominator.

([(XL-XC)^2+R^2]^1/2) = V0/ I0
Cross multiply to get I0 equal to an expression.

I0 = V0 / ([(XL-XC)^2+R^2]^1/2)
 
nice, and for having done so, you'll be all the more appreciative of Laplace transforms and complex variables. Both are very powerful tools for this sort of problem and many others.
 
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