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The discussion revolves around calculating the angle θ between the force vector ~F and the vertical displacement vector ~S during work done on a particle moving up the z-axis. The force components are given as Fx = 28 N, Fy = 57 N, and Fz = 99 N, with the displacement S being 4 m. Participants clarify that the work done can be expressed using the dot product, leading to the equation W = Fz * S * cos(θ). To find θ, the magnitude of the force vector |~F| must be calculated, which involves the square root of the sum of the squares of its components. Ultimately, the angle θ can be determined using the relationship between work, force, and displacement.
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Homework Statement


Hint: W = ~S · ~F .
Consider a force ~F with components Fx =28 N, Fy = 57 N, and Fz = 99 N, as illustrated in the figure below. Work is done when a particle moves up the vertical z-axis a distance of 4 m.
[PLAIN]http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/5594/problem4e.jpg
What is the angle θ between the body diagonal which represents the force ~F and the front-left edge of the block which represents both the z-component Fz of the vector ~F and the vector ~S the particle traversed?
Answer in units of ◦

Homework Equations


They give me a hint of W= S *F
but I don't know S or W...


The Attempt at a Solution


F= 28i + 57 j + 99 k
 
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Work for a constant force is the dot product between the force and the displacement,
W=\vec{F} \cdot \vec{d}.

What are the two definitions of the dot/scalar product, and how can you use them to find the angle θ?
 
jhae2.718 said:
Work for a constant force is the dot product between the force and the displacement,
W=\vec{F} \cdot \vec{d}.

What are the two definitions of the dot/scalar product, and how can you use them to find the angle θ?

W= F * d= mag(F delta d) costheta?
so is the distance only in the z direction?
and if so does that mean only Fzk matter?
 
The problem says "Work is done when a particle moves up the vertical z-axis a distance of 4 m", so what does that imply about the direction of the displacement?

You can relate the dot product in terms of the magnitudes and cos(theta) with the dot product in terms of the components to find cos(theta), and then use arcos(cos(theta)).
 
jhae2.718 said:
The problem says "Work is done when a particle moves up the vertical z-axis a distance of 4 m", so what does that imply about the direction of the displacement?

You can relate the dot product in terms of the magnitudes and cos(theta) with the dot product in terms of the components to find cos(theta), and then use arcos(cos(theta)).

So the direction is in the z direction... so does this mean I only need to care about Fzk(which is also S) and F?
 
Essentially; W=F_z\hat{k} \cdot S\hat{k} in this case. Now, from this, how can you get \theta?

Note that you don't need to take \vec{F} itself in the calculation once you've put it into component form.
 
jhae2.718 said:
Essentially; W=F_z\hat{k} \cdot S\hat{k} in this case. Now, from this, how can you get \theta?

Note that you don't need to take \vec{F} itself in the calculation once you've put it into component form.

So, Fzk=99k
W= 99k * S= mag (99k*S)costheta
theta=arccos( 99k*S)/mag (99k*S)

but how do I get S?
 
S is 4 m.

You're making a mistake. It is the magnitude of \vec{F} in the dot product, so you should have:
99\,\mathrm{N}\cdot 4\,\mathrm{m}=|\vec{F}| \cdot 4\,\mathrm{m} \cos(\theta).

|\vec{F}|=\sqrt{F_x^2+F_y^2+F_z^2}.
 
jhae2.718 said:
S is 4 m.

You're making a mistake. It is the magnitude of \vec{F} in the dot product, so you should have:
99\,\mathrm{N}\cdot 4\,\mathrm{m}=|\vec{F}| \cdot 4\,\mathrm{m} \cos(\theta).

|\vec{F}|=\sqrt{F_x^2+F_y^2+F_z^2}.

Oh, I see now.

Thanks so much!
 
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