Angle on ramp with cart and weights on rope at end

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a cart on a frictionless ramp and weights suspended by a rope. Participants are examining the forces acting on the system, particularly focusing on the angle of the ramp and the components of gravitational force.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to resolve the components of gravitational force and are questioning the application of trigonometric functions. There is also a discussion about the signs of these forces and the need for consistent definitions of positive directions.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on defining positive directions for the forces involved. There is recognition of confusion regarding the signs of the forces, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the track is frictionless, which influences their calculations and considerations of forces. There is also mention of a classroom context that may affect their understanding of gravitational force components.

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Homework Statement
A 250g cart with 250g of weight is on a ramp. Rope attached to right side going over pulley with a 50g weight on end. Calculate angle ramp needs to be at to maintain cart stationary

edit: track is frictionless
Relevant Equations
Fnetx=nx+Tx+(FG)x=0
Fnety=ny+Ty+(FG)y=0
I believe the nx, Ty, and (fs)y are all 0. I could solve for theta if I could figure out (fs)x or ny.

edit: Track is frictionless, so delete (fs) forces.

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You wrote ##(F_G)_x## as ##Mg\cos\theta## and ##(F_G)_y## as ##Mg\sin\theta##. Check your trig functions here. Also, shouldn't ##(F_G)_x## and ##(F_G)_y## both be negative?
 
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I just caught the cos/sin issue. And I wasn't sure about them being negative. Obviously they are, but I may be getting it confused. Class said g is just a scalar of 9.8 m/s^2, and we need to add in the signs so it would be +(-g). I just don't know when/where to add the negatives.
 
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don't know when/where to add the negatives.
First, you need to define which way you are taking as positive for each variable. It doesn’t matter what you choose as long as you are consistent.
I would take positive as downslope for the cart and vertically down for the suspended mass.
 

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