Angular Momentum and uniform flat disk of mass Problem

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The discussion centers on calculating the angular momentum of a uniform flat disk and the subsequent motion of a chip that breaks off from it. The angular momentum is derived using the formula Li = Iωi, with the moment of inertia I given as (1/2)MR^2. After the chip detaches, its vertical rise is analyzed using kinematic equations, leading to the conclusion that the maximum height it reaches can be expressed in terms of the initial speed, which is ωiR. The final calculations confirm that the distance the chip rises is (ωiR)^2/2g. The discussion effectively resolves the problem using physics principles related to rotational motion and projectile motion.
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A uniform flat disk of mass M and radius R rotates about a horizontal axis through its center with angular speed ωi.
a) What is its angular momentum
b) A chip of mass m breaks off the edge of the disk at an instant such that the chip rises vertically above the point at which it broke off. How how above the point does it rise before starting to fall?
c) What is the final angular speed of the broken disk.

Li = Iωi
I of wheel = (1/2)MR^2
Li = ωi(1/2)MR^2

d = Vit + (1/2)at^2

i figure this velocity will be equal to sin(theta)*Vtangential (Vτ)

d = Vτi*sin(theta)*t + (1/2)gt^2

is this correct?

thanks
 
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Destrio said:
Li = Iωi
I of wheel = (1/2)MR^2
Li = ωi(1/2)MR^2
OK.

d = Vit + (1/2)at^2

i figure this velocity will be equal to sin(theta)*Vtangential (Vτ)
You aren't given the time or the tangential speed. And it rises vertically, so what must be its direction?

Find the distance in terms of the given parameters.
 
Li = Iωi
I of wheel = (1/2)MR^2
Li = ωi(1/2)MR^2

can i assume there is no horizontal component to the flying chip?
if so, won't Vτ = ωiR at some point

do I have to find distance in terms of R?
 
Destrio said:
can i assume there is no horizontal component to the flying chip?
I would.
if so, won't Vτ = ωiR at some point
Yes. That's the speed of the chip as it breaks off.

do I have to find distance in terms of R?
Find it any way you can, but only in terms of the parameters given. That distance only depends on the initial speed, but that speed is in terms of ωi and R.
 
Li = Iωi
I of wheel = (1/2)MR^2
Li = ωi(1/2)MR^2

Vτ = ωiR

i need to know when Vf = 0

so Vf = Vo + at
Vf = 0
Vo = Vτ = ωiR
-a = g
0 = ωiR - gt
gt = ωiR
t = ωiR/g

d = ωiR(ωiR/g) + (1/2)g(ωiR/g)^2
d = (ωiR)^2/g + (ωiR)^2/2g
d = 2(ωiR)^2/2g + (ωiR)^2/2g
d = 3(ωiR)^2/2g

this this correct?

thanks
 
Destrio said:
Li = Iωi
I of wheel = (1/2)MR^2
Li = ωi(1/2)MR^2

Vτ = ωiR

i need to know when Vf = 0

so Vf = Vo + at
Vf = 0
Vo = Vτ = ωiR
-a = g
0 = ωiR - gt
gt = ωiR
t = ωiR/g
OK.
d = ωiR(ωiR/g) + (1/2)g(ωiR/g)^2
a = -g
 
d = ωiR(ωiR/g) - (1/2)g(ωiR/g)^2
d = (ωiR)^2/2g
 
Destrio said:
d = ωiR(ωiR/g) - (1/2)g(ωiR/g)^2
d = (ωiR)^2/2g
Good.
 
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