Angular Momentum Homework: Find Moment of Inertia for Rotating Disc

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia for a rotating disc with a piece of plasticine dropped onto it. The initial angular speed is 20 rpm, and after the plasticine is added, it decreases to 16 rpm. Participants emphasize using the conservation of angular momentum, stating that the total angular momentum before and after adding the plasticine remains constant. The moment of inertia of the plasticine can be treated as that of a point mass, allowing for the calculation of the disc's moment of inertia. The key takeaway is to isolate the moment of inertia of the disc using the conservation principle and the given angular speeds.
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Homework Statement



The question involves a rotating disc, spinning about a vertical axis through its centre. We are given its angular speed, 20rpm and diameter 24cm.

A piece of plasticine is dropped onto the disc (no torques are applied by this process). We are given its location relative to the centre of the disc, 8cm and its weight 8g.

We are told that the angular speed is reduced and given its new value, 16rpm

We are asked for the moment of inertia of the disc.


Homework Equations


\large L=I\omega

\large I=\frac{1}{2}mR^{2}

\large I=mR^{2}



The Attempt at a Solution



We cannot immediatley calculate the moment of inertia as the mass of the disc is not given. I 'think' that the problem is solved by conservation of angular momentum. As no torques are applied to the system angular momentum is conserved.

L1= I1\omega
L1= I1(20rpm)

L2= I2(16rpm)

I1=1/2(M)(10cm)2

I am lost... How do i calculate I2? I can't seem to see past the unknown mass of the disc... I can see that for the plasticine we can calculate it's moment of interia if we treat it as a particle but I'm still confused.

Can someone please point me in the right direction?
 
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You are also wrong to assume that the disk has a uniform mass distribution (Which is what you did by assuming I_{disk}=\tfrac{1}{2}MR^2 )

Consider the moment of inertia of the disk, I_d and the moment of inertia of the disk with the plasticine attached to it (Remember that the moment of inertia is an additive quantity).

As no torque acted on the system, you are right to assume that angular momentum was conserved (\tau = \frac{dL}{dt}=0)

With these two facts you can now solve for the moment of inertia of the disk.
 
OK so if:

L_{1}=I_{d}\omega_{1}

and

L_{2}=I_{d+p}\omega_{2}= I_{d}\omega_{2}+I_{p}\omega_{2}

where \omega_{1} = 20rpm and \omega_{2} = 16rpm

Then because angular momentum is conserved,

L_{1}=L_{2} and I_{d}\omega_{2}+I_{p}\omega_{2}=I_{d}\omega_{1}

Is it correct to treat the plasticine as having I_{p}=MR^{2} ?
 
Skuzzy said:
OK so if:

L_{1}=I_{d}\omega_{1}

and

L_{2}=I_{d+p}\omega_{2}= I_{d}\omega_{2}+I_{p}\omega_{2}

where \omega_{1} = 20rpm and \omega_{2} = 16rpm

Then because angular momentum is conserved,

L_{1}=L_{2} and I_{d}\omega_{2}+I_{p}\omega_{2}=I_{d}\omega_{1}

Is it correct to treat the plasticine as having I_{p}=MR^{2} ?

Yep, since you weren't given any information about the piece of plasticine, I think it's safe to treat it as a point mass.

Now all you need to do is isolate for I_d, and that should prove to be simple enough. Well done!
 
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