Annihilation/creation operator question

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The discussion revolves around the nature and interpretation of annihilation and creation operators in quantum mechanics and quantum field theory. Participants explore whether these operators represent physical processes or observables, and the implications of their mathematical properties.

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  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question what physical processes annihilation and creation operators represent, suggesting that particles are created and destroyed in pairs.
  • One participant states that these operators increase or decrease the occupation number by one particle but do not represent physical processes or observables, as they are not self-adjoint or unitary.
  • Another participant notes that Wigner classified all particle states in Minkowski spacetime, linking each type to an associated creation/annihilation operator.
  • There is a discussion about the assumption that operators represent observables in quantum mechanics, with a clarification that only self-adjoint operators do, and even then, there are questions regarding their completeness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether annihilation and creation operators represent physical processes or observables, indicating a lack of consensus on this topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that the operators in question are not self-adjoint or unitary, which raises questions about their role in representing observables in quantum mechanics.

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These operators increase/decrease occupation number by one particle. What observable do these operators represent?
I'm just curious what physical processes these operators represent. Since particles are created/destroyed in pairs, do they have to applied twice to describe an actual process?
 
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KevinMcHugh said:
Summary: These operators increase/decrease occupation number by one particle. What observable do these operators represent?

I'm just curious what physical processes these operators represent. Since particles are created/destroyed in pairs, do they have to applied twice to describe an actual process?
They don't represent physical processes or observables (they're not self adjoint or unitary). They're just formal operators useful in quantum field theory.

Wigner managed to find a way to classify all particle states in Minkowski spacetime. With each type there is an associated creation/annihilation operator and free quantum fields ultimately turn out to be just (generalized) Fourier transforms of them.
 
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Thank you DarMM. I was under the assumption operators represent observables in QM.
 
KevinMcHugh said:
Thank you DarMM. I was under the assumption operators represent observables in QM.
Only self-adjoint operators do. And even then there are questions over whether all do.
 
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