AP Problem - Elastic Collision at an Angle

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The discussion centers on solving an elastic collision problem involving momentum and kinetic energy conservation. A participant expresses confusion about how the angle of velocity remains unchanged during the collision on a frictionless surface. The correct answers for parts a-c have been validated, but there is a discrepancy in the calculation for part d. The error identified is the failure to include the initial velocity squared in the kinematic equation, leading to an incorrect final velocity result. The correct approach involves combining the initial kinetic energy with the potential energy to arrive at the right answer.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



Conservation of Momentum: m1(v1i) +m2(v2i) = m1(v1f) + m2(v2f)
Vf^2=Vi^2 + 2a(delta y)
Conservation of Kinetic Energy (Elastic Collision): .5m1(v1i^2)+.5m2(v2i) = .5m1(v1f^2)+.5m2(v2f^2)

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Since the surface is frictionless, only the component of velocity normal to the surface is affected by the collision.
 
What? Sorry I don't understand what you're saying...does that mean the angle doesn't change?

(By the way thank you for being so amazingly helpful! :) )
 
Yes, the angle the velocity makes with the surface will not change.
 
This is the problem and diagram:

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1966/55320227sg8.png

I have done a-c, and these are my answers that I got. I know they're correct because I checked them with the solutions:

L= 4\sqrt{}2 (h)
Delta Y = Delta x = L/\sqrt{}2

For d I used the kinematic equation
Vf^2=Vi^2 + 2a(delta y)
I got delta y=4h
and vf = \sqrt{}8gh

but the ap board says the answer is (conservation of energy):

mgh + mgL/\sqrt{}2=.5mv^2

v = \sqrt{}10gh

But why is my answer for part d wrong?

note: \sqrt{}2
(this symbol is the square root symbol)
 
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You didn't add the Vi^2 (=2gh) to the 2a(delta y) (=8gh).
 

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