Apply Fermat's principle to a Concave mirror

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The discussion focuses on applying Fermat's principle to concave mirrors within the context of optics. It highlights that while the principle suggests light follows the shortest path, in the case of a concave mirror, the actual path taken can be longer due to the nature of the mirror's curvature. The conversation emphasizes that according to the calculus of variations, the path of light represents a local extremum rather than an absolute minimum. This means that slight deviations in the light's path result in minimal changes in path length, reinforcing the principle's application to infinitesimally small adjustments.

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I am now taking optics class at my school. Fermat principle can be applied on mirror of course.
Fermat.png

Then what about Concave mirror? According to the calculus of variation. the optimized path(actual path of the light) should be the shortest path. but in the concave mirror case, it goes through the longest path.
Fermat2.png

Like above.

How can I apply Fermat's principle on concave mirror?
 
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KT KIM said:
I am now taking optics class at my school. Fermat principle can be applied on mirror of course.
Fermat.png

Then what about Concave mirror? According to the calculus of variation. the optimized path(actual path of the light) should be the shortest path. but in the concave mirror case, it goes through the longest path.
Fermat2.png

Like above.

How can I apply Fermat's principle on concave mirror?

With variational principles, the path is not the absolute minimum (or maximum) it is only a local extremum. What this means is the following: If you shift the path slightly to the dotted path shown in the figure below, by shifting the location where the light ray hits the mirror by \Delta x, then the change in the path length will be of order (\Delta x)^2. That's a statement about the limit as \Delta x \rightarrow 0. Fermat's principle doesn't say anything about paths that are very different from the given path, it only applies to infinitesimally different paths.

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