Aproximating a morse potential using a taylor polynomial

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the approximation of a Morse potential using a Taylor polynomial. Participants are exploring how to set up equations for this approximation, particularly focusing on the application of Taylor series expansion to the Morse potential in order to derive the force constant.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to understand how to use the Taylor polynomial in conjunction with the Morse potential to solve a specific problem, particularly in finding the force constant.
  • Another participant asks about the process of Taylor expanding exponentials, indicating a need for clarification on the mathematical technique involved.
  • A participant provides the general formula for Taylor expansion but expresses uncertainty about applying it to the Morse potential due to the presence of multiple variables.
  • Another participant clarifies that while there may be many parameters in the Morse potential, the independent variable is r, suggesting that the expansion should be done in terms of r while treating other parameters as constants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the need to use the Taylor series for the Morse potential but have differing levels of understanding regarding the application of the method and the role of various parameters.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding how to appropriately apply the Taylor expansion to the Morse potential, particularly in relation to the variables and parameters involved. The discussion does not resolve these uncertainties.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in mathematical techniques for approximating potentials in physics, particularly those studying molecular interactions or related fields.

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I am not going to post my question because I want to find out how to actually use the taylor polynomial and morse potential and then apply that to my problem. Say I have to approximate the morse potential using a taylor series expanding about some value. This will then find me the force constant. How would I go about setting up such equations?
 
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physicsman314 said:
I am not going to post my question because I want to find out how to actually use the taylor polynomial and morse potential and then apply that to my problem. Say I have to approximate the morse potential using a taylor series expanding about some value. This will then find me the force constant. How would I go about setting up such equations?
Do you know how to taylor expand exponentials?
 
Jorriss said:
Do you know how to taylor expand exponentials?

yeah, i know the formula
f(x) = f(a) + f'(a)(x-a) + f''(a)/2! (x-a)^2 and so on
I'm not sure how to do this on a morse potential. Seems like there are a lot of variables and I'm not sure from my given data, what goes where.
 
physicsman314 said:
yeah, i know the formula
f(x) = f(a) + f'(a)(x-a) + f''(a)/2! (x-a)^2 and so on
I'm not sure how to do this on a morse potential. Seems like there are a lot of variables and I'm not sure from my given data, what goes where.
There are not more variables exactly, there are more parameters but the only independent variable is r. So try expanding in terms of r and treat everything else as a constant.
 

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