I Arbitrary value of the moment of a force

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The moment of a force depends on its magnitude, the choice of reference point, and the distance from that point to the force's application. Despite varying moments based on the reference point, an object under a single force will exhibit a consistent physical response, involving both rotation and translation. Different values of the moment can yield the same physical situation, as linear momentum and torque are affected by the reference point's location. The relationship between angular momentum and torque remains constant, ensuring that the rate of change in angular momentum corresponds to the applied torque. Ultimately, shifting the reference point alters the coordinate system but does not change the underlying physical reality.
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Hello,
It is well know that the moment of a force ##F## depends on:
a) the force magnitude ##|F|##
b) the choice of the moment reference point ##P##
c) the distance (lever arm) from the point ##P## to the point of application of the force ##Q##.

That said, an object with a single force applied to it will experience a moment which will vary in magnitude and sign with difference choices of the moment reference point ##P##. However, physically, the object will move in one specific and unique way under that same force (rotation+translation). How do different values of the moment ##M## produce the same physical situation?

Maybe all angular quantities, like angle, angular velocity, angular acceleration, moment of inertia, rotational kinetic energy, etc. must be referred to that specific and arbitrarily chosen point ##P##?

In general, we refer vectorial quantities (position, velocity, acceleration) to the origin ##O## of the triad of Cartesian axes...
 
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fog37 said:
Hello,
It is well know that the moment of a force ##F## depends on:
a) the force magnitude ##|F|##
b) the choice of the moment reference point ##P##
c) the distance (lever arm) from the point ##P## to the point of application of the force ##Q##.

That said, an object with a single force applied to it will experience a moment which will vary in magnitude and sign with difference choices of the moment reference point ##P##. However, physically, the object will move in one specific and unique way under that same force (rotation+translation). How do different values of the moment ##M## produce the same physical situation?
The same linear momentum counts as a different amount of angular momentum depending on the location of the reference point.
The same linear force counts a a different amount of torque depending on the location of the reference point.

The two effects match so that no matter where you choose to put the reference point, the rate of change in angular momentum will match the applied torque. Moving the reference point simply gives a different set of coordinates to describe the same physical reality.
 
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