Are Men Truly Happier Than Women Due to Societal and Biological Differences?

[zoobyshoe]

...men are usually revered if they're intelligent...

That's what I keep trying to tell the women around San Diego.

 

[Danger]

That's what I keep trying to tell the women around San Diego.

They might be more inclined to believe you if you climbed out of the wombat enclosure first.

 

[SOS2008]

Hilarious--Maybe I'll have time to read the entire thread. It made me think of photos someone sent me entitled "Why Women Live Longer Then Men." The photo of a man on a ladder in a fountain/pool of about 4' water with an electric drill was great.

 

[Gale]

That's what I keep trying to tell the women around San Diego.

wow... and it doesn't work... those must be some crazy women out there... sheesh! i'll come out there and slap some sense into those women... i mean really... zooby should be able to walk up to a woman, tell her that he's smart, and she should just bow before him. what's this world coming to?!? women should be taking HIM out to dinner!

 

[zoobyshoe]

They might be more inclined to believe you if you climbed out of the wombat enclosure first.

No. I wouldn't want a woman who was an anti-wombatiste

 

[Huckleberry]

wow... and it doesn't work... those must be some crazy women out there... sheesh! i'll come out there and slap some sense into those women... i mean really... zooby should be able to walk up to a woman, tell her that he's smart, and she should just bow before him. what's this world coming to?!? women should be taking HIM out to dinner!

Reading this makes me wish I was smart enough to radiate smartness. What do smart people look like anyway?

 

[zoobyshoe]

wow... and it doesn't work... those must be some crazy women out there... sheesh! i'll come out there and slap some sense into those women... i mean really...

This is a weird state. Look at our governor.

 

[TheStatutoryApe]

most guys are intimidated by smart girls. Guys want to feel superior. I spose it only makes it worse that I'm athletic, smart, and good with music and drawing... most guys are really uncomfortable with that. I haven't met any men who though it was hot when i helped them with their homework.
men are usually revered if they're intelligent, women are thought to be weird if they are.

Men are intimidated by any woman who is attractive. If they aren't worried about whether or not they are good enough for you then they are either freakishly secure with their self esteem or they really aren't that interested.

 

[zoobyshoe]

What do smart people look like anyway?

Hmmm...I remember this picture of Einstein with his tongue sticking out...

 

[Moonbear]

Hmmm...I remember this picture of Einstein with his tongue sticking out...

<--- I never realized that was supposed to be the smart smiley!

 

[zoobyshoe]

Men are intimidated by any woman who is attractive. If they aren't worried about whether or not they are good enough for you then they are either freakishly secure with their self esteem or they really aren't that interested.

I'd have to agree with this. I am not intimidated by intelligence in a woman. I think it is exiting. But the more attractive she might be the more intimidated I am.

 

[Moonbear]

I'd have to agree with this. I am not intimidated by intelligence in a woman. I think it is exiting. But the more attractive she might be the more intimidated I am.

Really sucks for us gorgeous and intelligent women.

 

[Huckleberry]

Hmmm...I remember this picture of Einstein with his tongue sticking out...

I'll have to try that the next time I find myself attracted to a woman. I have a feeling the reaction would be extreme in one direction or another.

This is me attempting to appear intelligent...
Is it working?

 

[Danger]

<--- I never realized that was supposed to be the smart smiley!

It isn't. Einstein had his tongue like this —>

In fact, except for the hair and wrinkles it looks just like him.

 

[zoobyshoe]

I'll have to try that the next time I find myself attracted to a woman. I have a feeling the reaction would be extreme in one direction or another.

This is me attempting to appear intelligent...
Is it working?

I'm not sure you caught my drift. That little green guy doesn't have...a high enough I.Q. Einstein's...I.Q. appears to be very high.

 

[Moonbear]

This is me attempting to appear intelligent...
Is it working?

Nope, but you're looking pretty cute there! :!)

 

[kleinjahr]

There's too many women posting on this thread.(don't encourage them)

Just trying to be my normal sensitive, caring, charming self.

Some would like to be a man amongst men. I prefer to be a man amongst women. Lots and lots of women. Perhaps it's the masochist in me.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Reading this makes me wish I was smart enough to radiate smartness.

After listening to a woman talk, once, I spontaneously offered the observation that she had excellent enunciation. A few days later, I overheard her remark "Yes, zoob is a very intelligent man."

The other time someone remarked to a third party that I was very intelligent was after I'd sat and listened to her talk for about an hour without interrupting.

 

[Moonbear]

The other time someone remarked to a third party that I was very intelligent was after I'd sat and listened to her talk for about an hour without interrupting.

Oh, yes, that's the hallmark of an intelligent man.

 

[Huckleberry]

After listening to a woman talk, once, I spontaneously offered the observation that she had excellent enunciation. A few days later, I overheard her remark "Yes, zoob is a very intelligent man."

The other time someone remarked to a third party that I was very intelligent was after I'd sat and listened to her talk for about an hour without interrupting.

That wouldn't be very satisfying for me at all. Did they not see the intelligence, or did they somehow intuit it? Sincere flattery is nice, but I don't like insincere kindness.

Maybe they were just being nice to you because you're name is zoob.

 

[zoobyshoe]

That wouldn't be very satisfying for me at all. Did they not see the intelligence, or did they somehow intuit it? Sincere flattery is nice, but I don't like insincere kindness.

YIKES! You seriously don't get women. Both compliments were totally sincere. Women LOVE to be listened to. Likewise they LOVE anything positive you might say about them as people. No one had ever made a point of telling that woman how good her enunciation was.

 

[Huckleberry]

Or maybe I don't understand intelligence. Either could be true.
My superego is a pain in the butt sometimes.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Here's the thing, son: if you sit and yak a woman's ear off trying to impress her, you come off as a self-involved jerk. It is much better to err on the side of not saying enough, just put all your energy into paying attention. You come off as interested, observant, thoughtful.

 

[Moonbear]

Here's the thing, son: if you sit and yak a woman's ear off trying to impress her, you come off as a self-involved jerk. It is much better to err on the side of not saying enough, just put all your energy into paying attention. You come off as interested, observant, thoughtful.

You still have to respond once in a while with a nod or agreement or something, otherwise we'll think you're not listening. If we're interested, ve haf vays to make you talk.

 

[zoobyshoe]

Yup...uh huh...yeah...I see...yup...sure, yeah...

 

[Danger]

It is much better to err on the side of not saying enough, just put all your energy into paying attention. You come off as interested, observant, thoughtful.

This is also essential preparation for marriage.

 

[zoobyshoe]

This is also essential preparation for marriage.

There's talking ater marriage?

 

[Danger]

There's talking ater marriage?

None, but there's a lot of paying attention.

 

[Huckleberry]

Here's the thing, son: if you sit and yak a woman's ear off trying to impress her, you come off as a self-involved jerk. It is much better to err on the side of not saying enough, just put all your energy into paying attention. You come off as interested, observant, thoughtful.

I know, dad. Originally I was completely kidding about looking intelligent. And I wouldn't chat up a girl trying to show her how intelligent I am. (or aren't as the case may be. It's really her decision that matters in this case.) The definition of intelligence is difficult to nail down. In the case of the guy that yaks a girl ear off to impress her, he may know many things but he misses the point of a conversation. The guy that listens and is complimentary may not know as many things as the other guy but he has a greater social understanding (intelligence).

For me it is a little different.
I have difficulty feigning interest in something I have no interest in. My verbal editor isn't always functioning properly and I say things without much tact sometimes. Women have comented that sometimes I can say everything right and then I suddenly say something hurtful or embarrassing that leaves them confused.

Here's an example that I've been thinking about for a long time.
I was talking with my best friend's fiance. Somehow the topic of the age old question, "Do I look fat in this?" came up. I told her that if a woman asked me that I would tell her my honest opinion. She looked at me like I had three eyes and said something like, "You'll ostracise yourself if you talk like that." I can definitely see how she is right.

My logic goes like this. Honesty is something I believe in, especially with someone who I love and trust. I should tell the truth. If the truth is something that would hurt her this is an undesirable result. I think about Compassion. The compassionate thing to do would be to say something that would not offend her. I think about how to come up with an answer without sacraficing one virtue over another. I think it is odd that virtues would conflict with each other and wonder where this tension is coming from. Then it strikes me that the question is vain. Honesty and Compassion are not struggling against each other. They are struggling against Vanity. So then I decide the compassionate thing to do would be to tell the truth and remove the vanity.

Kind of screwy huh? But that is why I said I have an overdeveloped superego. It's probably also why I'm still single. When I say nice things it can be very nice because I truly, deeply mean it. And the things that I say that are interpreted as cruel or harsh are taken deeply. It's not my intention to be harsh but I recognize that I am putting my values over the feelings of another person.

I'm a work in progress. And I got a long way to go.

 

[Moonbear]

Yup...uh huh...yeah...I see...yup...sure, yeah...

See how smart that zooby is!