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Are these good scores for the SAT subject tests?

  1. Nov 28, 2006 #1
    I got a 770 for Math Lvl 2 and 760 for physics. How good are these?
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  3. Nov 28, 2006 #2
    What are those tests out of...like total points. I never had to take the subject tests when I took the SAT's (I am assuming SAT II). If its out of 800, well I would say those are great looking scores...but like I said eariler, I don't know what its out of.
  4. Nov 28, 2006 #3
    These tests are out of 800.

    I got an 800 on both of them when I took them last year. I thought that they were ridiculously easy tests. I'm not sure how your scores fared against the average score, but I'd say that you did pretty well.

    Interestingly, although I got an 800 on the math II subject test, I was never able to get an 800 on the SAT I after taking it four times.
  5. Nov 28, 2006 #4
    I got a 930 total w/ math and english, not bad! :biggrin:
  6. Nov 28, 2006 #5


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    look at the percentile ranking of those scores, which should be given along with the scores.
  7. Nov 28, 2006 #6
    The percentiles will tell you if they are good.

    I will go on to say that they aren't bad. However, if you are applying to a school like MIT or Caltech, then those scores aren't that bad, but won't add much to your application or anything.

    Oh, and Doom of Doom, that's probably because on the SAT subject Math 2, you can miss something like 10 questions and still have an 800. The curve is insane. However, on the SAT I math, sometimes missing one question brings you down from an 800.

    All I know is that these are the percentiles for 800s
    Math IIC 800 is 90 percentile
    Physics 800 is 92 percentile
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    talk about grade inflation, when an 800 is only 90th percentile.
  9. Nov 28, 2006 #8
    :confused: I was hoping to do alot better, really. There goes MIT, Princeton etc. :cry:
  10. Nov 28, 2006 #9
    Are you a junior or a senior?

    Mathwonk, yeah :rofl:
    On the SAT I, an 800 on Math is in the 99+ percentile... I really don't know why it's that way. I know that the chinese SAT subject test has an average of somewhere around 750 or 760. That I almost understand, considering that I expect everyone who takes the test to be Chinese and be fluent...
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    yeah, I heard that most Harvard physics grad students enter with 800 scores. Still those are good scores and should get you to a good school.
  12. Nov 28, 2006 #11
    I wouldn't count yourself out yet. I didn't take either of those, failed my AP tests (except Bio), and got an 1130 on my SAT's and still managed to get into Reed College (couldn't go do to fiance's but still, its proves the point).

    The SAT's are a horrible gauge, and schools recognize this. A decent portion of your application at a majority of universities depends on your transcript and your personal statement. Additionally having research or other extra-cirrculuars or merely independent studies can also give you a nice boost.

    Don't count out MIT or Princeton just yet....just don't count on them as your only choices.
  13. Nov 28, 2006 #12
    don't give up yet, what will matter alot more than the scores is going to be your extra curriculars GPA etc.

    do you honestly think that they will care that much whether you got a 760 or an 800? 500 is the average as I recall.
  14. Nov 29, 2006 #13
    If I can recall it correctly, the percentile for prefect score on Chinese SATII was 80+......... The lowest of all tests, lol
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    I remember noticing that a while ago, but I think you mean about 20- and not 80+, i.e. 80% of those taking the test scored 800.
  16. Nov 29, 2006 #15
    I know at state college highschool, A professor was talking about if you have a 4.0 your not at the top of your class, you need at 5.0, and even at that your still not at the top of your class.

    Because others have 5.0's from taking AP courses starting in 7th grade and got A's in all of them all the way up to their Senior year. Its crazy, my highschool didn't even offer AP courses.

    So these kids are your competition.
  17. Nov 29, 2006 #16
    Its called weighted grading. It inflates your grades in high school; however, when you apply to very competive colleges that may referance this scale make sure you note it when you send in your application that you are from a 4.0 top level school that will not weigh the grades. This was the advice given to me when I applied to college, and I assume it worked pretty well.

    On a side note: Colleges know its unfair to look at people from one high school with a 5.0 max and others from another high school with a 4.0 max, so in some applications they will actually ask that you do not put in your weighted GPA, and this evens out the competitition for you a little bit.----Cal tech unfortunantly does not do this, according to my friends' run through their application process.
  18. Nov 29, 2006 #17
    It's funny how B's are the new C.
  19. Nov 29, 2006 #18
    until you get to college and a 60 can end up being a C. As long as the scholarships keep coming i'm not complaining.
  20. Nov 29, 2006 #19
    What I was referring to is the fact that the GPA spread of high school students is very small. Everyone has a 4.0 (leading to the institution of "weighted" GPA). Now at the local community college I attend, if a student receives a C it is not seen as average, but as poor, wheras the B is seen as average. In other words, everyone has A's, B's, maybe one C instead of a few A's, lots of B's and C's and hopefully no D's/F's. Just takes away the variability in grading and makes the GPA a less powerful indicator of a student's performance.

    Of course one might argue that GPA was never a good indicator regardless of grade inflation.
  21. Nov 30, 2006 #20
    Whats horrible though is I, and many people in my reigion, went to schools that had exceedingly high grading standards, and did not "weigh" their GPA's for students, thus resulting in a fairly even spread by traditional standards. We had one 4.0 student, and that was it, and the district I came from removed the val-victorian standing (which was total crap...but whatever). The rest of us that were close were normally in AP or Honors courses and we normally had GPA's between 3.96-3.79.

    When we applied to colleges, our GPA's hurt us quite a bit. It wasn't unless we were allowed to explain our education standards, which had been compaired in difficulty to top prep-schools in the state (dispite us only being a public school) for our GPA's to make sense.

    GPA inflation is a problem and it needs to stop, as it weakens the gauge of the GPA by uncalled for amounts.
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