Available materials for Faraday rotation experiment

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the materials and setup required for conducting an experiment on the Verdet constant and its effect on light polarization in magneto-rotation. Participants share their experiences and suggestions regarding the acquisition of polarizers, analyzers, and magnets, as well as considerations for the experimental setup.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant lists the materials they currently have for their experiment and expresses a need for affordable polarizers and analyzers.
  • Another participant suggests using polarized sunglasses as a source for polarizers and provides tips on verifying their polarization.
  • A different participant mentions that polarizer sheets can be purchased online for a low cost, suggesting they may be a more economical option than polarized eyeglasses.
  • Concerns are raised about the strength of neodymium magnets for the experiment, with one participant recommending the use of a Gaussmeter to measure magnetic strength.
  • One participant describes a previous setup using a large horseshoe electromagnet to allow for controlled magnetic field removal, noting the difficulty of using permanent magnets in this context.
  • Another participant reiterates the use of a glass rod to observe the effects, emphasizing the subtlety of the rotation effect.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants share various suggestions and experiences, but there is no consensus on the best materials or methods. Multiple competing views on the sources for polarizers and the effectiveness of different magnets remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific limitations regarding the strength of magnets and the visibility of the rotation effect, indicating that these factors may influence the experimental outcomes.

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I am a high school student experimenting with the Verdet constant of materials and how it affects the polarization of light in magneto-rotation. I have trouble acquiring the proper materials for this experiment. Here is what I have so far:

-AC/DC Power Supply
-Gaussmeter
-Optical laser under 5MW
-Neodymium Magnets
-Solenoid
-Various samples that light can pass throughI need polarisers and light analyzers to complete the apparatus. I also think the neodymium magnets will be too weak to create a magnetic field surrounding my sample. I would appreciate any advice on sustainable polarizers, analysers, and magnets that are relatively cheap (under $60).
 
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An easy source for polarizer/analyzer is a pair of polarized sunglasses, Polaroid is one widely available brand. In the U.S., drug stores often carry them. It is easiest to remove the lenses from the ones than clip onto eyeglasses, and they are often the cheapest but a little harder to find. Watch out for very cheap ones, they sometimes are not polarized, just tinted. To check them, grab two pair and check that transmission drops dramatically when rotated with respect to each other.

Also, not necessarily a problem, but be aware that some lasers are polarized.

As to magnet strength, you have a Gaussmeter so you can measure them. An online search for 'Verdet constant' should reveal the sensitivity of various materials.

A somtimes-cheap source for some fairly strong magnets is to tear apart an old computer hard disk drive. Maybe your local computer repair store has a junk one you can talk them out of. After you get the cover off the drive itself you will see the disk recording surfaces and an arm that moves the read/write head(s) across the disk surfaces. The arm is mounted on a motor that, when disassembled, has a few VERY strong magnets. (I use them for refrigerator magnets.)

Good luck, and let us know how things work out!
 
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You can buy polarizer sheets for much less than 60$. Just look online.
Square pieces (1" size) can be around 1$ a piece.
Polarizing eyeglasses may be more expensive. Unless you have some you don't need anymore. :smile:
 
KShah423 said:
I am a high school student experimenting with the Verdet constant of materials and how it affects the polarization of light in magneto-rotation. I have trouble acquiring the proper materials for this experiment. Here is what I have so far:

-AC/DC Power Supply
-Gaussmeter
-Optical laser under 5MW
-Neodymium Magnets
-Solenoid
-Various samples that light can pass throughI need polarisers and light analyzers to complete the apparatus. I also think the neodymium magnets will be too weak to create a magnetic field surrounding my sample. I would appreciate any advice on sustainable polarizers, analysers, and magnets that are relatively cheap (under $60).
It is possible to see the effect using a glass rod. The rotation is very small and so the effect can only just be seen. One problem you have with permanent magnets is how to remove the magnetic field, so as to see the difference, without disturbing the set up. For this reason, the method in last school used a big horse shoe electromagnet (actually part of the transformer kit) about 10 cm long with 3 cm diameter legs and 1200 turns of wire. It has closely spaced pole pieces having light holes. I am trying to recall the exact geometry.
 
tech99 said:
It is possible to see the effect using a glass rod. The rotation is very small and so the effect can only just be seen. One problem you have with permanent magnets is how to remove the magnetic field, so as to see the difference, without disturbing the set up. For this reason, the method in last school used a big horse shoe electromagnet (actually part of the transformer kit) about 10 cm long with 3 cm diameter legs and 1200 turns of wire. It has closely spaced pole pieces having light holes. I am trying to recall the exact geometry.
This link shows the geometry I am describing:-
http://www.ld-didactic.de/documents/en-US/EXP/P/P5/P5461_e.pdf
 

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