Basis for kernel of linear transform

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The discussion revolves around finding the basis for the kernel and range of a linear transformation L that maps polynomials in P4 to P4. Participants explore the relationships among coefficients of polynomials to determine the kernel and range without relying on a transformation matrix.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about finding the kernel and range of the linear transformation L without using a transformation matrix.
  • Another participant suggests that it is unnecessary to find a matrix and proposes examining the defining equation of L to determine the kernel.
  • A participant identifies that the conditions a1 = a2 and a3 = a4 lead to arbitrary values for a2 and a4, proposing that the kernel of L is spanned by the polynomials {(1+t), (t^2+t^3)}.
  • There is a suggestion that the range consists of polynomials of the form {t, t^3}, indicating that any values of a2 or a4 can produce these terms.
  • Another participant reiterates that the kernel consists of all linear combinations of the basis elements identified, and similarly describes the range in terms of linear combinations of its basis elements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationships among the coefficients leading to the kernel and range, but there is no consensus on the final characterization of the range, as it is described in different ways.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the exact nature of the range, and there are assumptions about the arbitrary nature of coefficients that are not fully explored.

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Hey guys!

I am having a major brain problem today, with this problem.

L is a linear transform that maps L:P4[tex]\rightarrow[/tex]P4

As such that (a1t3+a2t2+a3t+a4 = (a1-a2)t3+(a3-a4)t.

I am trying to find the basis for the kernel and range.

I know that the standard basis for P4 is {1,x,x2,x3}
And the kernel is when L(u)=0, but I don't know how to find the transformation matrix, since we're not dealing with numbers in R, but in the set of polynomials. Is there another way to find the kernel/range and bases without using the T matrix?
 
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Takuya said:
Hey guys!

I am having a major brain problem today, with this problem.

L is a linear transform that maps L:P4[tex]\rightarrow[/tex]P4

As such that (a1t3+a2t2+a3t+a4 = (a1-a2)t3+(a3-a4)t.

I am trying to find the basis for the kernel and range.

I know that the standard basis for P4 is {1,x,x2,x3}
And the kernel is when L(u)=0, but I don't know how to find the transformation matrix, since we're not dealing with numbers in R, but in the set of polynomials. Is there another way to find the kernel/range and bases without using the T matrix?

Don't worry about trying to find a matrix. It's not necessary in order to answer this problem.

To find the kernel, just look at the defining equation for [itex]L[/itex]. What relationships must hold among [itex]a_1, a_2, a_3, a_4[/itex] in order to obtain

[tex]L(a_1 t^3 + a_2 t^2 + a_3 t + a_4) = 0[/tex]

To find the range, simply answer this: if you allow [itex]a_1, a_2, a_3, a_4[/itex] to take on all possible values, what are all the possible polynomials that you can produce of the form

[tex](a_1 - a_2) t^3 + (a_3 - a_4) t[/tex]
 
a1=a2 and a3=a4, so that a2 and a4 can be arbitrary. So plugging back into the original L(a), and factoring, you'd get that {(1+t),(t2+t3)} is the kernel of L?

The range would be … any value of a2 or a4 for t3 and t, so the range is just {t,t3} ?
 
Takuya said:
a1=a2 and a3=a4, so that a2 and a4 can be arbitrary. So plugging back into the original L(a), and factoring, you'd get that {(1+t),(t2+t3)} is the kernel of L?

That is a BASIS for the kernel of L. The kernel itself consists of all possible linear combinations of the basis elements, which is any polynomial of the form [itex]a (1+t) + b(t^2 + t^3)[/itex].

The range would be … any value of a2 or a4 for t3 and t, so the range is just {t,t3} ?

That is a BASIS for the range of L. The range itself is once again the set of all possible linear combinations of the basis elements, i.e. anything of the form [itex]a t + b t^3[/tex].[/itex]
 
Ohhh right right. Yeah I was getting ahead of myself. I understand now! Thanks :)
 

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