Bead on wire tilted at angle theta.

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Homework Statement


Consider a bead of mass m constrained to slide without friction along a rigid wire that rotates about the vertical at a fixed angle \theta with constant angular velocity \omega. Write down the Lagrangian in terms of z as the general coordinate. Find the equation of motion of the bead, and determine whether there are positions of equilibrium. If there are equilibrium positions, are they stable?

Homework Equations


z=rcos\theta

U=mgz

The Attempt at a Solution


\dot{r}=\frac{\dot{z}}{cos\theta}

T=\frac{1}{2}m(\dot{r}^{2}+r^{2}\dot{\theta}^{2})

L=\frac{2}{3}m(\frac{\dot{z}^{2}}{cos^{2}\theta}+(z\omega)^{2}/(cos^{2}\theta}))-mgz

m\ddot{z}=2z\omega^{2}-mgcos^{2}\theta

\ddot{z}=\frac{2z\omega^{2}}{m}-gcos^{2}\theta

Just wondering if my equation of motion is correct. Thanks for the help
 
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Note that \theta is a fixed angle. So, \dot{θ} = 0.

You will need a kinetic energy term that takes into account the azimuthal motion ("swinging around motion") around the axis of rotation at the angular speed ω. So, see if you can construct a kinetic energy term involving ω, z, and \theta. Of course, you will still have the kinetic energy term \frac{1}{2}m\dot{r}2.
 
Note that the distance of the particle from the axis of rotation is rsinθ = ztanθ.
 
TSny,

Using your advice I get:
L=\frac{1}{2}m(\frac{\dot{z}^{2}}{cos^{2}\theta}+(z^{2}\omega^{2})/(cos^{2}\theta))-mgz

\ddot{z}=\frac{2z\omega^{2}}{m}-gcos^{2}\theta

Does this look ok?

Thanks.
 
The kinetic energy associated with the rotation about the z axis would be (1/2)m(ωd)2 where d is the radius of the circular motion about the z-axis. If the bead is a distance r out along the wire, then check that d = r sinθ. d can then be expressed in terms of z by using r = z/cosθ.

So, verify that the second term of the Lagrangian would have a tan2θ in place of the 1/cos2θ.

You should find that the mass m cancels out in the equation of motion for \ddot{z}. Also, you have a factor of 2 in the first term on the right hand side of the equation for \ddot{z} that should not be there.
 
Awesome that made it perfectly clear and I got the correct answer. Thanks so much for the help!
 
Also to find any equilibrium positions I looked at what would make \ddot{z}=0.
I got only 1 equilibrium position of z=\frac{g}{tan^{2}\theta\omega^{2}}.
I also concluded that this is stable since \omega and \theta are constant.
 
Your equilibrium value for z looks correct to me.

However, I believe it's an unstable equilibrium. One way to see this is to go back to your result for \ddot{z}.

\ddot{z} = sin2θ ω2 z - g cos2θ

Imagine placing the bead on the rod at the equilibrium position where \ddot{z} = 0. Then displace the bead a little bit farther out on the rod. This will make z greater than the equilibrium value of z and an inspection of the expression for \ddot{z} shows that \ddot{z} will become positive. So, if you let the bead go from this position, which way would it begin to move?

Similarly, analyze what would happen if you displaced the bead a small amount in the opposite direction from the equilibrium position.
 
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