Bending Stress in Top of T-Beam

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum bending stress in a T-beam made of steel under a point load. Participants explore the implications of beam support conditions, the correct moment of inertia calculation, and the significance of material stress limits.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an initial calculation for bending stress using the formula MC/I, but expresses uncertainty about the result being too high for steel.
  • Another participant suggests a different approach to calculating the moment of inertia and bending stress, indicating that the force is not applied at the center.
  • Concerns are raised about the clarity of the point load application and the correctness of the moment of inertia expression used by the first participant.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the beam's support conditions and the need to consider additional moments in the calculation of total bending stress.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of knowing the allowable stress of the beam material to interpret the calculated bending stress meaningfully.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct approach to calculating the moment of inertia and bending stress, with no consensus reached on the methodology or the accuracy of the initial calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the assumptions made about the beam's support conditions and the application of the point load, as well as the correctness of the moment of inertia calculations.

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Homework Statement



T-Beam is Steel with E=200GPa

Find Max bending stress MC/I (right side where no glue)[/B]
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80KG Load at Point "A" shown on the Top view

Blue stuff is glue, the right side has no Glue, so its just empty space

2. The attempt at a solution

I = BH^3/12 , where B = 0.04m H = 0.004
So I = 2.13 * 10^-10 m^4
C = 0.029m
M = 784.8 N * 0.024m = 18.8352 n-m

Solving that out I get 2.573 GPa which seems too high as steel can only see in MPa of stress.

So I'm not sure if the number I got is correct or I did something wrong with my calculation.
 
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The Beam is Supported in the center.

The Bending is happening not on the axis I assumed, the force is not in the center so

I = 0.08* 0.004^2 and C = 0.002

Now I get 88.29 MPa
 
tsslaporte said:
MxcOwAK.png


The Beam is Supported in the center.

The Bending is happening not on the axis I assumed, the force is not in the center so

I = 0.08* 0.004^2 and C = 0.002

Now I get 88.29 MPa

It's not clear what you are trying to do here. What is this point load and why is it applied to the flange of the beam?

Your expression for I seems to be incorrect, or at least it is unfamiliar to me. Have you checked to make sure the units make sense?

Your calculated bending stress values lack meaning if you don't know what stress the beam material is capable of withstanding without permanent deformation.
 
SteamKing said:
It's not clear what you are trying to do here. What is this point load and why is it applied to the flange of the beam?

Your expression for I seems to be incorrect, or at least it is unfamiliar to me. Have you checked to make sure the units make sense?

Your calculated bending stress values lack meaning if you don't know what stress the beam material is capable of withstanding without permanent deformation.

Hey,

The Beam is rigidly held in place except for the right side, so can assume a simple beam,(Square/rectangle) so I= BH^3/12 is correct.

I actually am still wrong, there is a moment in the y and x, I need to add them to find total bending stress.
 
tsslaporte said:
Hey,

The Beam is rigidly held in place except for the right side, so can assume a simple beam,(Square/rectangle) so I= BH^3/12 is correct.

I actually am still wrong, there is a moment in the y and x, I need to add them to find total bending stress.
I don't think I'd worry too much about the eccentric 'point' load a few mm off center in the y direction . I'd do it as you had in your original post after correcting the 'c' distance to .002m and checking your steel allowable stress for the material being used, as SteamKing noted .
 

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