Bernoulli & Navier-Stokes: Relation Explained

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In summary, the conversation is discussing the relationship between Bernoulli's equation and Navier-Stokes equation. It is concluded that the two equations are closely related, with the Bernoulli equation being a case of energy conservation and the Navier-Stokes equation being a momentum equation. The derivation of the Bernoulli equation from the Navier-Stokes equations is also discussed. The conversation also touches on the use of the SIMPLER algorithm and the concept of viscosity in solving the Navier-Stokes equations. Overall, it is stated that Bernoulli and Navier-Stokes equations are special cases of transport equations and are both important in fluid dynamics.
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hi all, I'm little confuse about the relation of these two equation.
is it right to say that Bernoulli's equation is just a case(incompressible,inviscid,steady) of navier stoke equation?
 
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No the Bernoulli equation is an equation of energy conservation.

Navier Stokes is an equation of motion - momentum or forces depending upon format.
 
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The Bernoulli equation can be directly derived from the Navier Stokes relations, so the two are definitely closely related. A number of derivations can be found online, depending on your preferred form of the N-S equations (and whether or not you are comfortable with tensor notation).
 
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Hello,

If you start with the navier-stokes equation and assume steady state (drop ∂/∂t terms), inviscid flow (drop term with μ), and integrate over a streamline with density constant you will arrive at the bernoulli equation.
 
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And how do you guys get the navier stokes equations in the first place?
 
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Studiot said:
And how do you guys get the navier stokes equations in the first place?

Using Reynolds' transport theorem would be the easiest way to go about it or just a straight integral control volume analysis, which is intimately related to RTT.

At any rate, to the OP:

If you start with the Navier-Stokes equations and assume the flow to be inviscid, you get the Euler equation
[tex]\dfrac{\partial \rho}{\partial t} + \vec{V}\cdot\nabla\vec{V} = -\dfrac{1}{\rho}\nabla p[/tex]

If you take the streamwise component of this equation, you get
[tex]u\dfrac{\partial u}{\partial s} = -\dfrac{1}{\rho}\dfrac{\partial p}{\partial s}[/tex]

Integrating this along a streamline
[tex]\int\left(u\dfrac{\partial u}{\partial s} + \dfrac{1}{\rho}\dfrac{\partial p}{\partial s}\right) = 0[/tex]

[tex]\dfrac{\partial}{\partial s}\int\left(u\;d u + \dfrac{d p}{\rho}\right) = 0[/tex]

[tex]\dfrac{\partial}{\partial s}\left(\dfrac{u^2}{2} + \int\dfrac{d p}{\rho}\right) = 0[/tex]

which is a statement of Bernoulli's principle where the integrand is constant over a streamline.
 
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I was solving N-S using SIMPLER algorithm and found that there is term u*dv/dy, where u=viscosity, v=vertical component of velocity, is u=0 for this term, since there won't be stress perpendicular to the surface. Need help
 
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You really ought to start your own thread instead of hijacking one. At any rate, unless you have a good reason for doing so, you can't just call viscosity zero.
 
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Thanks man! Below is something that I know about Bernoulli and N-S

Bernoulli and N-S are special cases of transport Equations. When the flow is steady and inviscid, the 'Energy(enthalpy)-Transport Equation' reduces to Bernoulli, i.e. Total energy is conserved. The Momentum-Transport Equation is called the N-S Equation, it is actually not a special, they are well known as Momentum Equation.
 

Related to Bernoulli & Navier-Stokes: Relation Explained

1. What is the Bernoulli principle?

The Bernoulli principle states that as the velocity of a fluid increases, the pressure decreases. This principle is often used to explain the lift force on an airplane wing and the flow of fluids through pipes.

2. What is the Navier-Stokes equation?

The Navier-Stokes equation is a mathematical equation that describes the motion of fluids. It takes into account the forces acting on a fluid, such as pressure and viscosity, and can be used to predict the behavior of fluids in various situations.

3. How are the Bernoulli principle and Navier-Stokes equation related?

The Bernoulli principle is a simplified version of the Navier-Stokes equation, which assumes that the fluid is incompressible and that there is no viscosity. The Bernoulli principle can be derived from the Navier-Stokes equation under these assumptions.

4. What is the difference between Bernoulli's equation and the Bernoulli principle?

Bernoulli's equation is a mathematical equation that describes the relationship between pressure, velocity, and height in a fluid. The Bernoulli principle is a concept that states that as the velocity of a fluid increases, the pressure decreases. Bernoulli's equation can be derived from the Bernoulli principle, but it also takes into account other factors such as the height of the fluid.

5. How is the Bernoulli principle used in real-world applications?

The Bernoulli principle is used in many real-world applications, such as in the design of airplane wings, the flow of water through pipes, and the functioning of carburetors in engines. It is also used in medical devices, such as ventilators and nebulizers, to regulate air and fluid flow.

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