Bernoulli's equation, Venturi effect, hydraulic head, nozzle

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The discussion centers on calculating power in a vertical tube with a nozzle using Bernoulli's equation and the Venturi effect. The user is trying to reconcile the velocity increase in the nozzle with the head height, questioning if the modified head value should be used in power calculations. They reference Torricelli's equation and express confusion over the relationship between the velocities in the tube and nozzle. The user concludes that the velocity in the tube is not zero and affects the energy in the nozzle, suggesting that both head values should be considered in the calculations. Understanding this relationship is crucial for accurate power determination in fluid dynamics.
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Hi, I have this problem:

I have a vertical tube 1 meter D, in the bottom end there is a nozzle with 0,5 m D. The tube is full of water. the tube length is 10 meters and the nozzle length is 2 meters. I need to calculate the power of this by this equation:

W = Q * g * h * p

where W is watt, Q is the volumetric flow rate, g is 9.81,h is the head and p is the density (1000 kg/m3 for the water.

The issue is the velocity in the nozzle: for the Venturi effect, in the nozzle the velocity increases. So in the velocity Torricelli's equation: sqrt(2 * g * h) = v the h value changes in h = (v^2) / 2 * g that is greater then the real h value (12 meters). So in the power equations I use this second h value. Is it right?

There is an explanation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelton_wheel#Power but I'm not understanding it.
 
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I'm guessing the velocity in the tube ##v_t## is not zero. This is why the velocity in the nozzle ##v_n## gives a head ##h_n## greater than the physical height of the tube ##h_t##. The relation between the two should be:
$$\rho g h_t + \frac{\rho v_t^2}{2} = \frac{\rho v_n^2}{2} \equiv \rho g h_n$$
Of course, the velocity of the fluid in the tube does translate into energy in the nozzle, so ##h_n## should be considered in such a case.
 
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jack action said:
I'm guessing the velocity in the tube ##v_t## is not zero. This is why the velocity in the nozzle ##v_n## gives a head ##h_n## greater than the physical height of the tube ##h_t##. The relation between the two should be:
$$\rho g h_t + \frac{\rho v_t^2}{2} = \frac{\rho v_n^2}{2} \equiv \rho g h_n$$
Of course, the velocity of the fluid in the tube does translate into energy in the nozzle, so ##h_n## should be considered in such a case.

Thank you!
 
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