Bessel function for a 2D circular plate

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The discussion focuses on the application of Bessel functions in simulating Chladni plates using Max/MSP for granular synthesis. The formula for a circular plate is presented as Jn(K r) (C1 cos(n theta) + C2 sin(n theta)), where Jn represents the n-th order Bessel function, and K is defined as Znm / R, with Znm being the m-th zero of the n-th order Bessel function. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the boundary conditions of the plate, specifically that it is fixed at the rim, which influences the behavior of the Bessel function in the simulation.

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  • Understanding of Bessel functions, specifically the first kind.
  • Familiarity with polar coordinates in mathematical modeling.
  • Basic knowledge of Max/MSP for audio synthesis.
  • Experience with MATLAB for plotting mathematical functions.
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  • Research the properties and applications of Bessel functions of the first kind.
  • Learn how to implement polar coordinates in Max/MSP for audio simulations.
  • Explore MATLAB functions for visualizing Bessel functions and their modes of vibration.
  • Investigate the significance of constants C1 and C2 in the context of Bessel function solutions.
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This discussion is beneficial for audio engineers, mathematicians, and developers interested in physical modeling synthesis, particularly those working with Chladni plates and Bessel functions in simulation environments like Max/MSP and MATLAB.

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(Repost of thread, wrong forum).

Hi all,

I'm writing a simulation of Chladni plates in Max/MSP and hope to use it in granular synthesis. I have found two formulas on the web; square and circular plate. I understand the square but the circular is quite confusing as I'm not a mathematician and I need help breaking it down so I can compute it in Max/MSP. Can anyone shed some light on the following formula?... :)

"For a circular plate with radius R the solution is given in terms of polar coordinates (r,theta) by

Jn(K r) (C1 cos(n theta) + C2 sin(n theta))

Where Jn is the n'th order Bessel function. If the plate is fixed around the rim (eg: a drum) then K = Znm / R, Znm is the m'th zero of the n'th order Bessel function. The term "Znm r / R" means the Bessel function term goes to zero at the rim as required by the constraint of the rim being fixed."

Btw, I'm not looking for someone to hold my hand... just a little guidance..


Thanks.
 
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Bessel functions look like this: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/BesselFunctionoftheFirstKind.html

They are solutions of a pde which, I guess(?), describes your modes of vibration.

The subscript shows which order of Bessel function you have -- the mode profile in the radial direction -- the cos/sin bit shows how these profiles vary in the angular direction.

Plot them in, eg., MATLAB and you'll get the idea.
 
Thank you.

I will plot them in Matlab, and post back with the results.

Looking at the formula I am unsure of what C1/C2 stands for. Do you know?
 

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