Best review paper on the observational status of black holes?

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The discussion centers around identifying a comprehensive review paper on the observational status of astrophysical black holes, specifically seeking resources that cover both supermassive and solar-mass black holes. Participants express interest in recent developments and upcoming observational techniques, particularly related to Sgr A*.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests a review paper that is up to date, freely available, and covers both supermassive and solar-mass black holes.
  • Another participant suggests a paper focused solely on Sgr A*, noting its relevance to the discussion.
  • A participant expresses surprise at the advancements in observations of Sgr A*, particularly regarding measurements probing its spin.
  • There is a question about whether an all-encompassing review paper exists for both types of black holes, with speculation on the focus shifting to Sgr A* due to its accessibility for strong-field general relativity studies.
  • A participant shares insights from a talk by Broderick, highlighting the expectation of VLBI images of Sgr A* resolving the event horizon within five years and comparing it to the black hole in Centaurus-A.
  • Another participant calculates the distance required for a stellar mass black hole to subtend an angular size comparable to Sgr A*, suggesting challenges in imaging such black holes in the near future.
  • A further suggestion for a paper is provided, although its relevance is not elaborated upon.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific review paper that meets all criteria. There are multiple competing views regarding the focus on Sgr A* versus other black holes, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the availability of a comprehensive review.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the availability of a review covering both supermassive and solar-mass black holes, and there are assumptions about the observational capabilities and distances involved in imaging stellar mass black holes.

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Suppose I have to pick one review paper on the observational status of astrophysical black holes. It should:
-be as up to date as possible
-be available for free online (preferably on arxiv)
-cover both supermassive and solar-mass black holes
Does anyone have any suggestions?

This one meets most of the criteria, but it's only about Sgr A*: http://arxiv.org/abs/1006.0064

How about info on upcoming VLBI and x-ray observations of Sgr A*?
 
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bcrowell said:
How about info on upcoming VLBI and x-ray observations of Sgr A*?

Here's a good place to start on this question:

http://arxiv.org/abs/0906.3899
 
Thanks, phyzguy! That's a cool paper. I hadn't realized that observations of Sgr A* had progressed so far already. They're already at the point where their measurements are starting to probe the spin.

Maybe I'm just not going to find an all-in-one review paper on both supermassive and solar-mass black holes. Does anyone know of a good review paper on the latter? Is Sgr A* so much easier to work with that attention has shifted completely to it, at least as a probe of strong-field GR?
 
I saw a talk by Broderick, one of the co-authors of that paper. I remember two important points. He said:

(1) We will absolutely have VLBI images of SgrA* that will resolve the event horizon within 5 years.
(2) The only other black hole with an angular size comparable to SgrA* is the one in Centaurus-A. Although it is ~500 times further away than SgrA*, the SMBH in CenA is ~1E9 suns, vs 4E6 suns for SgrA*, so the angular sizes are roughly comparable.

I don't know much about stellar mass black holes, but a quick calculation says that in order for a stellar mass black hole (say M=40 suns) to subtend the same angular size as SgrA*, it would need to be .08pc away, This is ~20X closer than Alpha Centauri. Thus, it seems like we will not be imaging stellar mass black holes any time soon!
 

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