Binomial Distribution Statistics Problem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability that at least two people in a group of five share the same zodiac sign, given there are 12 signs. The correct approach involves subtracting the probability of all five individuals having unique signs from 1. Participants clarify the binomial probability formula, noting that the variables represent combinations and probabilities related to the number of people and signs. The conversation highlights the need to correctly identify the probability of unique assignments versus shared signs. The final focus is on determining the value of p, the probability of a specific sign being assigned to an individual.
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Homework Statement



Estimate the probability that, in a group of five people, at least two of them have the same zodiacal sign. (There are 12 zodiacal signs; assume that each sign is equally likely for any person.)

Homework Equations



P(X=k) = nCk * p^{k} * (1-p)^k{}

The Attempt at a Solution



I think that it involves in some way subtracting the probability that everyone has a unique zodiacal sign from 1, but I'm not sure exactly how.
 
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Could you possibly tell us a little more about the variables in that formula. "What do C, k, n, and p represent?"
 
Look up the birthday problem, it's pretty similar to this isn't it?
 
blondsk8rguy said:

Homework Statement



Estimate the probability that, in a group of five people, at least two of them have the same zodiacal sign. (There are 12 zodiacal signs; assume that each sign is equally likely for any person.)

Homework Equations



P(X=k) = nCk * p^{k} * (1-p)^k{}

The Attempt at a Solution



I think that it involves in some way subtracting the probability that everyone has a unique zodiacal sign from 1, but I'm not sure exactly how.

Exactly the right approach. How many ways are there to assign a different sign to each person and how many ways to assign any sign to any person. Take the ratio and subtract from 1.
 
blondsk8rguy said:

Homework Statement



Estimate the probability that, in a group of five people, at least two of them have the same zodiacal sign. (There are 12 zodiacal signs; assume that each sign is equally likely for any person.)

Homework Equations



P(X=k) = nCk * p^{k} * (1-p)^k{}

The Attempt at a Solution



I think that it involves in some way subtracting the probability that everyone has a unique zodiacal sign from 1, but I'm not sure exactly how.
Your formula is incorrect- perhaps a typo. It should be
P(X=k) = nCk * p^{k} * (1-p)^{n-k}


Yes, "at least two the same" is the opposite of "all different". Since there are 5 people and you want 5 different signs, both n and k in your binomial coefficient are 5 so that is easy- its just 1. In fact, (1- p)^{5-5}= (1-p)^0= 1 so it is just "probability of all the same" is p^5. What is p?
 
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