Bivectors, Cartan Geometry and Curvature

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The discussion revolves around the properties of bivector space, the curvature tensor, and Cartan geometry. Participants explore the implications of antisymmetry in the Riemann curvature tensor, the construction of metrics in bivector space, and potential analogues to Lorentz transformations in a six-dimensional space.

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  • One participant questions which symmetry properties of the Riemann curvature tensor remain when extending to Cartan geometry with a non-symmetric Ricci tensor, suggesting that a non-symmetric bitensor R_{AB} can still be obtained.
  • Another participant inquires about the existence of an analogue to Lorentz transformations in the six-dimensional space of signature (+++---).
  • A participant proposes that the metric g_{AB} in bivector space can be constructed from the given formula and asks if a curvature tensor R_{ABCD} can be derived from it, along with interpretations for the bitensor representation R_{AB} of R_{\mu\nu\alpha\beta}.
  • One participant provides a link that is suggested to simplify certain calculations, though its relevance is uncertain.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the usefulness of the link and invites further elaboration or resources on the topic.

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The discussion contains multiple competing views and remains unresolved, particularly regarding the implications of the symmetry properties in Cartan geometry and the interpretation of bivector space metrics.

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I have some questions related to bivector space, the curvature tensor and Cartan geometry.

1) Because of its antisymmetric properties

R_{\mu\nu\alpha\beta}=-R_{\nu\mu\alpha\beta}, R_{\mu\nu\alpha\beta}=-R_{\mu\nu\beta\alpha},

the Riemann curvature tensor can be regarded as a second-rank bivector R_{AB} in six-dimensional space (in case of spacetime dimension four). Due to the symmetry

R_{\mu\nu\alpha\beta}=R_{\alpha\beta\mu\nu},

one can also conclude that R_{AB}=R_{BA}. My question now is, which of the symmetry properties remain when extending Riemannian geometry to Cartan geometry with a non-symmetric Ricci-Tensor? Is it correct that one can still obtain a bitensor R_{AB}, which then however is non-symmetric?

2) The six-dimensional space is of signature (+++---). Is there any analogue to Lorentz transformations in this space?

3) The metric g_{AB} in bivector space can be constructed by

g_{\mu\nu\rho\sigma} = g_{\mu\rho}g_{\nu\sigma}-g_{\mu\sigma}g_{\nu\rho}.

I guess from that one can derive a curvature tensor R_{ABCD} for the six-dimensional space. Is that correct? And is there any interpretation for the bitensor representation R_{AB} of R_{\mu\nu\alpha\beta}?

Any answers highly appreciated!

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Sorry, but the link doesn't work. If further elaboration on the questions is of help, or if my understanding is flawed, please tell. You're also welcome to point me to resources dealing with these topics. I couldn't find anything on these questions though.
 

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