Black hole singularty definable In 3D space?

In summary, the concept of a "singularity" in the center of a black hole does not refer to a physical point in space, but rather a point where current mathematical models break down. This means that we cannot define this point in 3D coordinates and it does not necessarily imply that our universe is not fully describable in 3 dimensions. A more accurate theory of gravity would be needed to understand what happens inside this region.
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Since the center of a black hole is defined as a singularity and space-time collapses at that point (assumption) is it possible to define this point in 3D coordinates? In other words, is it possible that our universe can not be described as a 3D space but rather as a space with 2.99... dimensions?
 
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Since the center of a black hole is defined as a singularity and space-time collapses at that point (assumption) is it possible to define this point in 3D coordinates? In other words, is it possible that our universe can not be described as a 3D space but rather as a space with 2.99... dimensions?
You are making the mistake of thinking that "singularity" is physical. It is not. In the context of physics "singularity" generally mean "the place where the math mode gives non-physical results and thus does not actually tells us what is going on".
 
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I wondered about this because the following is stated on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity : "The laws of normal spacetime could not exist within a singularity" and therefore this suggest there is no coordinate system defined at that point/region, or if you like no 'normal' coordinate system. If so such region simply cannot be defined in our known 3 dimensions then our universe is not fully definable in 3D.
 
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I wondered about this because the following is stated on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity : "The laws of normal spacetime could not exist within a singularity" and therefore this suggest there is no coordinate system defined at that point/region, or if you like no 'normal' coordinate system. If so such region simply cannot be defined in our known 3 dimensions then our universe is not fully definable in 3D.
Well, no. It just means you have to draw a little circle around that point, say, "Here be dragons!" and then never try to infer anything about the universe by using what goes on inside that point. We would need a more accurate theory of gravity to say what does happen inside that region.
 
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I wondered about this because the following is stated on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity : "The laws of normal spacetime could not exist within a singularity" and therefore this suggest ...
no, it does not suggest anything, really, because that would be making the same mistake you are making of taking "singularity" to be physical. As Chalnoth has also now pointed out to you, you cannot legitimately do that.
 

Related to Black hole singularty definable In 3D space?

1. What is a black hole singularity?

A black hole singularity is a point of infinite density at the center of a black hole, where the laws of physics break down and our current understanding of the universe no longer applies.

2. How is a black hole singularity defined in 3D space?

In 3D space, a black hole singularity is defined as a point with zero volume and infinite density. It is often described as a one-dimensional object with no width, height, or depth.

3. Is a black hole singularity a physical object?

No, a black hole singularity is not considered a physical object. It is a mathematical concept that represents the center of a black hole where the laws of physics break down.

4. Can we observe a black hole singularity?

No, we cannot directly observe a black hole singularity. The extreme gravitational pull of a black hole prevents anything, including light, from escaping, making it impossible for us to see or detect the singularity.

5. What happens to matter that enters a black hole singularity?

Matter that enters a black hole singularity is crushed to an infinitely small size and becomes part of the singularity. It is believed that the laws of physics, including the concept of time, cease to exist within the singularity.

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