Black Hole Temperature: Stephen Hawking Equation & Calculation Results

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of black hole temperature using Stephen Hawking's equation. Participants explore the correct formulation of the equation, the values of constants used, and the resulting temperature for a black hole with the mass of the sun. The scope includes theoretical calculations and potential discrepancies in the application of the equation.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation T = hc² / 16∏²GMk and calculates a temperature of approximately 0.57° for a black hole with the mass of the sun, questioning the correctness of the equation and constants used.
  • Another participant calculates a temperature closer to 10^-16 °K, suggesting that a black hole with the mass of the sun would evaporate very slowly.
  • A participant points out a potential error in the original equation, suggesting it should include a factor of the speed of light, proposing T = {h c³ / 16π² GMk} and mentions using Google for calculations.
  • There is a discussion about whether to use h or ħ (h-bar) in the equation, with some participants noting the difference and one acknowledging an oversight in their preference for ħ.
  • A later reply confirms the equivalence of h and ħ in this context, indicating a shared understanding among participants about the constants involved.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct formulation of the equation and the resulting temperature calculations, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the correct approach.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the correct constants and factors in the equation, as well as the implications of using h versus ħ, which may affect the calculations presented.

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Ok so first I know that this equation was presented by Stephen Hawking to describe to Temperature of a black hole:

T = hc2 / 16∏2GMk

so I did the calculations and got that the temperature of a black hole with the mass of our sun would be ≈ .57°

Is this right? Is this the right equation?

Here is what I used for the variables can you guys check if these are correct?:

g = 6.67*10^-11

h = 62606956*10^-34

k = 1.3806583*10^-23

and then just the mass of our sun and the speed of light

Thanks
 
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I'm getting closer to 10-16 °K, so a Black Hole Sun would evaporate very slowly, unlike the Soundgarden video.
 
Looks like you missed a factor of the speed of light in your equation. Should be:

T = {h c^3 \over 16\pi^2 GMk}

Anyway, the easiest way to calculate these things is to just plug them into Google. The Google calculator knows about units, fundamental constants, and a lot of common values, so you can simply type in:

h*c^3/(16*pi^2*G*(mass of sun)*k)

...to Google, and it will give you the right result (about 10^-8 K).

Oh, and there's also a nifty calculator for all of the values related to a black hole:
http://xaonon.dyndns.org/hawking/
 
Shouldn't that be \hbar c^3 / 8 \pi GMk or did I miss something?
 
Chronos said:
Shouldn't that be \hbar c^3 / 8 \pi GMk or did I miss something?
It's just a difference of whether to use h or \hbar :)
 
My error, I am so accustomed to hbar I overlooked the obvious equivalence.
 
Thanks for your help guys! And thanks Chalnoth for the calculator and link :)
 

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