Block Projected up Plane with Spring atop

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A block is projected up a frictionless incline with a spring at the top, and the goal is to determine the required kinetic energy for the block to momentarily stop after compressing the spring. The gravitational potential energy is calculated using the sine of the incline angle to find the change in height. The user initially misapplied the sine function in their calculations, leading to incorrect results. Despite having the correct approach, they faced issues with the computer's acceptance of their answers, suggesting possible individualized parameters. The discussion highlights the complexities of energy conservation in physics problems involving inclines and springs.
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Homework Statement



A spring (k = 200 N/m) is fixed at the top of a frictionless plane inclined at angle θ = 40 °. A 1.6 kg block is projected up the plane, from an initial position that is distance d = 0.80 m from the end of the relaxed spring. With what kinetic energy must the block be projected up the plane if it is to stop momentarily when it has compressed the spring by 0.50 m?

Homework Equations



Ui + Ki = Uf + Kf

U(elastic)=.5kx2

U(gravitational)= mgy

The Attempt at a Solution

So I assumed that Ui=0 because I'm assuming the block starts at the bottom of the plane.

I also assumed that because the block is momentarily stopping that Kf=0

so that leaves me with

Ki=Uf and solving for Uf will give me Ki

Uf= U(elastic) + U(gravitational)

Uf = .5(200N/m)(.5m)2 + (1.6kg)(9.8m/s2)([.5m+.8m] sin 40)

Uf= 38.1026J

therefore Ki should equal 38.1026

However, that answer is refused so I would like to know what I am doing wrong. Thankyou.
 
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You have a good start. Do you know why you took the sin(40) in the fourth last line?

This is because the gravitational potential is mg\Delta h

By taking this sine, you are making the change in height parallel to the force such that you get the right answer. However you also took the sine for spring potential energy. However the line of force of the spring is parallel to the plane.
Think about that.
 
Even more troubling, I still got the answer wrong and it was my last attempt so they just show you how to do it then and my setup actually was correct however the computer did not want to take my numbers (the numbers are individualized for everyone.

Rake I do actually think the right way to do it is what you said and not consider the .5 into the sin 40
so, it should look like thisUf = .5(200N/m)(.5m)2 + (1.6kg)(9.8m/s2)([.5m]+.8 sin 40)

but this just makes me hate physics even more...
 
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