Unraveling the Principles of Boltzmann's Law

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Boltzmann's law is underpinned by three key principles: the conservation of energy, the equal probabilities of allowed configurations, and the significance of the specific states occupied by molecules. The discussion highlights confusion regarding the third principle, which is identified as incompatible with quantum theory due to the issue of indistinguishability of particles. Participants clarify that Boltzmann's law relates to both the statistical distribution of molecular energies and the principles of statistical mechanics. The conversation reflects an ongoing effort to reconcile classical and quantum perspectives in thermodynamics. Understanding these principles is crucial for grasping the limitations of classical theories in the context of quantum mechanics.
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Write down the 3 principles underpinning Boltzmanns law and indicate which of these is incompatible with the quantum theory of gases



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Well I know two...

1. The conservation of energy
2. Equal probabilities of allowed configurations

But I'm a bit stuck with the third. Can anyone help me out here?

I know that Boltzmann said that it matters which molecule is in which state and that there is no restriction on the number of molecules that can occupy a given state, but I wasn't aware that this is an underpinning principle. If it is, then I would say that this is the one that isn't compatible with the quantum theory of gases due to the indistinguishability issue.
 
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Which Boltzmann law? I think you're thinking of S = k \ln W but they could mean the statistical Boltzmann law, i.e. the distribution of energies of molecules in a gas.
 
Well, I'm assuming that its the principles of statistical mechanics that they're after. As I said, I only know of two 'principles'. I am working on quantum theory though and don't know of any separate principles from Boltzmann for this.
 
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